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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	Daan De Meyer <daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com>,
	Mike Yuan <me@yhndnzj.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/4] pidfd: improve uapi when task isn't found
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 14:37:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250404123737.GC3720@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250403-work-pidfd-fixes-v1-3-a123b6ed6716@kernel.org>

On 04/03, Christian Brauner wrote:
>
> We currently report EINVAL whenever a struct pid has no tasked attached
> anymore thereby conflating two concepts:
>
> (1) The task has already been reaped.
> (2) The caller requested a pidfd for a thread-group leader but the pid
>     actually references a struct pid that isn't used as a thread-group
>     leader.
>
> This is causing issues for non-threaded workloads as in [1].
>
> This patch tries to allow userspace to distinguish between (1) and (2).
> This is racy of course but that shouldn't matter.
>
> Link: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/36982 [1]
> Signed-off-by: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>

For this series:

Reviewed-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>


But I have a couple of cosmetic nits...

>  int pidfd_prepare(struct pid *pid, unsigned int flags, struct file **ret)
>  {
> -	bool thread = flags & PIDFD_THREAD;
> +	int err = 0;
>
> -	if (!pid_has_task(pid, thread ? PIDTYPE_PID : PIDTYPE_TGID))
> -		return -EINVAL;
> +	if (!(flags & PIDFD_THREAD)) {
> +		/*
> +		 * If this is struct pid isn't used as a thread-group
> +		 * leader pid but the caller requested to create a
> +		 * thread-group leader pidfd then report ENOENT to the
> +		 * caller as a hint.
> +		 */
> +		if (!pid_has_task(pid, PIDTYPE_TGID))
> +			err = -ENOENT;
> +	}
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * If this wasn't a thread-group leader struct pid or the task
> +	 * got reaped in the meantime report -ESRCH to userspace.
> +	 *
> +	 * This is racy of course. This could've not been a thread-group
> +	 * leader struct pid and we set ENOENT above but in the meantime
> +	 * the task got reaped. Or there was a multi-threaded-exec by a
> +	 * subthread and we were a thread-group leader but now got
> +	 * killed.

The comment about the multi-threaded-exec looks a bit misleading to me.
If this pid is a group-leader-pid and we race with de_thread() which does

		exchange_tids(tsk, leader);
		transfer_pid(leader, tsk, PIDTYPE_TGID);

nothing "bad" can happen, both pid_has_task(PIDTYPE_PID) or
pid_has_task(PIDTYPE_TGID) can't return NULL during (or after) this
transition.

hlists_swap_heads_rcu() or hlist_replace_rcu() can't make
hlist_head->first == NULL during this transition...

Or I misunderstood the comment?

And... the code looks a bit overcomplicated to me, why not simply

	int pidfd_prepare(struct pid *pid, unsigned int flags, struct file **ret)
	{
		if (!pid_has_task(pid, PIDTYPE_PID))
			return -ESRCH;

		if (!(flags & PIDFD_THREAD) && !pid_has_task(pid, PIDTYPE_TGID))
			return -ENOENT;

		return __pidfd_prepare(pid, flags, ret);
	}

? Of course, the comments should stay.

But again, this is cosmetic/subjective, please do what you like more.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-04 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-03 14:09 [PATCH RFC 0/4] pidfd: improve uapi when task isn't found Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 14:09 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] selftests/pidfd: adapt to recent changes Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 14:09 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] pidfd: remove unneeded NULL check from pidfd_prepare() Christian Brauner
2025-04-03 14:09 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] pidfd: improve uapi when task isn't found Christian Brauner
2025-04-04 12:37   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-04-04 13:38     ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-04 14:53       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-09 15:38         ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-09 18:18           ` [RFC PATCH] pidfs: ensure consistent ENOENT/ESRCH reporting Christian Brauner
2025-04-09 18:40             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-10 10:18               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-10 10:43                 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-10 13:10                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-10 20:05                     ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-10 20:24                       ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-11 11:08                         ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-11 11:25                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-11 11:41                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-04-03 14:09 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] selftest/pidfd: add test for thread-group leader pidfd open for thread Christian Brauner

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