From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
To: Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
"Bastien Curutchet" <bastien.curutchet@bootlin.com>,
"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] uio/dma-buf: Give UIO users access to DMA addresses.
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 21:21:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250414212125.4b3e6f33@windsurf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f55367e-45c0-4280-b1ed-7ce9160c1fad@ti.com>
Hello Andrew,
On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 12:08:44 -0500
Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com> wrote:
> "UIO is a broken legacy mess, so let's add more broken things
> to it as broken + broken => still broken, so no harm done", am I
> getting that right?
Who says UIO is a "broken legacy mess"? Only you says so. I don't see
any indication anywhere in the kernel tree suggesting that UIO is
considered a broken legacy mess.
Keep in mind that when you're running code as root, you can load a
kernel module, which can do anything on the system security-wise. So
letting UIO expose MMIO registers of devices to userspace applications
running as root is not any worse than that.
> If your FPGA IP can do DMA then you should not be using UIO in
> the first place, see UIO docs:
>
> > Please note that UIO is not an universal driver interface. Devices that
> > are already handled well by other kernel subsystems (like networking or
> > serial or USB) are no candidates for an UIO driver.
>
> The DMA subsystem already handles DMA devices, so write a DMA driver.
My FPGA IP block is not a DMA controller that would fit the dmaengine
kernel subsystem. It's a weird custom device that doesn't fit in any
existing subsystem, and that happens to do "peripheral DMA" (i.e the IP
block is DMA-capable itself, without relying on a separate DMA
controller). So this (very valid) recommendation from the UIO
documentation doesn't apply to my device.
Best regards,
Thomas
--
Thomas Petazzoni, co-owner and CEO, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering and training
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-14 19:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-10 14:53 [PATCH 0/3] uio/dma-buf: Give UIO users access to DMA addresses Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-10 14:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] dma-buf: Allow heap that doesn't provide map_buf/unmap_buf Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-10 14:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] dma-buf: Add DMA_BUF_IOCTL_GET_DMA_ADDR Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-11 18:34 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-04-29 6:39 ` Simona Vetter
2025-04-29 8:12 ` Christian König
2025-04-10 14:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] uio: Add UIO_DMABUF_HEAP Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-11 18:41 ` Nicolas Dufresne
2025-04-10 16:29 ` [PATCH 0/3] uio/dma-buf: Give UIO users access to DMA addresses Christian König
2025-04-10 19:43 ` Thomas Petazzoni
[not found] ` <b596c9af-c0e3-4557-b45a-462a33179235@amd.com>
2025-04-11 8:14 ` Bastien Curutchet
2025-04-11 12:41 ` Christian König
2025-04-14 8:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14 8:59 ` Christian König
2025-04-14 5:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-14 8:24 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14 9:11 ` Christian König
2025-04-14 11:52 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14 11:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-14 11:48 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-04-14 17:08 ` Andrew Davis
2025-04-14 19:21 ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]
2025-04-14 20:13 ` Andrew Davis
2025-04-22 18:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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