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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Eric Chanudet <echanude@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Ian Kent <ikent@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com>,
	Lucas Karpinski <lkarpins@redhat.com>,
	Aishwarya.TCV@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] fs/namespace: defer RCU sync for MNT_DETACH umount
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 05:24:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250420042412.GQ2023217@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250417-outen-dreihundert-7a772f78f685@brauner>

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 05:12:26PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:

> (2) If a userspace task is dealing with e.g., a broken NFS server and
>     does a umount(MNT_DETACH) and that NFS server blocks indefinitely
>     then right now it will be the task's problem that called the umount.
>     It will simply hang and pay the price.
> 
>     With your patch however, that cleanup_mnt() and the
>     deactivate_super() call it entails will be done from
>     delayed_mntput_work...
> 
>     So if there's some userspace process with a broken NFS server and it
>     does umount(MNT_DETACH) it will end up hanging every other
>     umount(MNT_DETACH) on the system because the dealyed_mntput_work
>     workqueue (to my understanding) cannot make progress.
> 
>     So in essence this patch to me seems like handing a DOS vector for
>     MNT_DETACH to userspace.

(3) Somebody does umount -l and a few minutes later proceeds to reboot.
All filesystems involved are pinned only by mounts, but the very first
victim happens to be an NFS mount from a slow server.  No indication
of the problem, just a bunch of local filesystems that got a dirty shutdown...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-20  4:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-08 20:58 [PATCH v4] fs/namespace: defer RCU sync for MNT_DETACH umount Eric Chanudet
2025-04-09 10:37 ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-09 13:14   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-09 14:02     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-09 14:25       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-09 16:04         ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-10  3:04           ` Ian Kent
2025-04-10  8:28           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-10 10:48             ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-10 13:58           ` Ian Kent
2025-04-11  2:36             ` Ian Kent
2025-04-09 16:08         ` Eric Chanudet
2025-04-11 15:17           ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-11 18:30             ` Eric Chanudet
2025-04-09 16:09     ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-10  1:17   ` Ian Kent
2025-04-09 13:04 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-04-09 16:41   ` Eric Chanudet
2025-04-16 22:11 ` Mark Brown
2025-04-17  9:01   ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-17 10:17     ` Ian Kent
2025-04-17 11:31       ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-17 11:49         ` Mark Brown
2025-04-17 15:12         ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-17 15:28           ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-17 15:31             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-17 16:28               ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-17 22:33                 ` Eric Chanudet
2025-04-18  1:13                 ` Ian Kent
2025-04-18  1:20                   ` Ian Kent
2025-04-18  8:47                     ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-18 12:55                       ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-18 19:59                       ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-18 21:20                         ` Eric Chanudet
2025-04-19  1:24                       ` Ian Kent
2025-04-19 10:44                         ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-19 13:26                           ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-21  0:12                             ` Ian Kent
2025-04-21  0:44                               ` Al Viro
2025-04-18  0:31           ` Ian Kent
2025-04-18  8:59             ` Christian Brauner
2025-04-19  1:14               ` Ian Kent
2025-04-20  4:24           ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-04-20  5:54 ` Al Viro
2025-04-22 19:53   ` Eric Chanudet
2025-04-23  2:15     ` Al Viro
2025-04-23 15:04       ` Eric Chanudet

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