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From: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	john.ogness@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 20/22] rv: Add rtapp_sleep monitor
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 11:33:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250425093309.RkeoCUBC@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <169b8478-1eff-46b1-a782-f0cb529330bb@redhat.com>

On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 07:35:36AM +0000, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> 2025-04-25T06:35:09Z Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>:
> > On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 03:55:34PM +0200, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> >> I quickly tried the same with the other monitor comparing the number of
> >> errors with the page_faults generated by perf, but that didn't make too
> >> much sense. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong here though (the number
> >> reported by perf for page faults feels a bit too high).
> >>
> >> perf stat -e page-faults -e rv:error_pagefault stress-ng --cyclic 1
> >
> > This command run a non-real-time thread to do setup, and a cyclic real-time
> > thread. The number of pagefaults of each thread would be roughly
> > proportional to the code size executed by each thread. As the non-real-time
> > thread's code size is bigger, it sounds reasonable that the number of
> > pagefaults is greater than the number of monitor's warnings.
> 
> Mmh I guessed something like that, although numbers were a bit out of
> proportion (e.g. 500 page-faults and 8 errors), but again, I didn't check
> too carefully what happens under the hood.

Keep in mind that the non-real-time thread is calling into glibc. While
the real-time thread is a small loop doing nanosleep.

> > I tested the monitor on a real system. My system has some real-time audio
> > processing processes (pipewire, firefox running youtube), yours also
> > should.
> 
> That's a good point, also I didn't mention I was running these tests in a
> VM (virtme-ng), so the system stress is minimal and perhaps the setup
> triggers some different oddities (filesystems are overlays and some other
> things are set up differently from a real system).

Oddities are good, they make some corner cases appear.

Evidently I need to torture the monitors much more, let's see what else
shows up..

Best regards,
Nam

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-25  9:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-23  6:49 [PATCH v4 00/22] RV: Linear temporal logic monitors for RT application Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:49 ` [PATCH v4 01/22] rv: Add #undef TRACE_INCLUDE_FILE Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:49 ` [PATCH v4 02/22] printk: Make vprintk_deferred() public Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:49 ` [PATCH v4 03/22] panic: Add vpanic() Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:49 ` [PATCH v4 04/22] rv: Let the reactors take care of buffers Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 05/22] verification/dot2k: Make a separate dot2k_templates/Kconfig_container Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 06/22] verification/dot2k: Remove __buff_to_string() Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 07/22] verification/dot2k: Replace is_container() hack with subparsers Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 08/22] rv: rename CONFIG_DA_MON_EVENTS to CONFIG_RV_MON_EVENTS Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 09/22] verification/dot2k: Prepare the frontend for LTL inclusion Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 10/22] Documentation/rv: Prepare monitor synthesis document " Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 11/22] verification/rvgen: Restructure the templates files Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 12/22] verification/rvgen: Restructure the classes to prepare for LTL inclusion Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 13/22] rv: Add support for LTL monitors Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 14/22] rv: Add rtapp container monitor Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 15/22] x86/tracing: Remove redundant trace_pagefault_key Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 16/22] x86/tracing: Move page fault trace points to generic Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 17/22] arm64: mm: Add page fault trace points Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 18/22] riscv: " Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 19/22] rv: Add rtapp_pagefault monitor Nam Cao
2025-04-23 10:37   ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-24  3:40     ` Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 20/22] rv: Add rtapp_sleep monitor Nam Cao
2025-04-24 13:55   ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-25  6:34     ` Nam Cao
2025-04-25  7:35       ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-04-25  9:33         ` Nam Cao [this message]
2025-04-25  7:45       ` John Ogness
2025-04-25  7:48         ` John Ogness
2025-04-25  9:23           ` Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 21/22] rv: Add documentation for rtapp monitor Nam Cao
2025-04-23  6:50 ` [PATCH v4 22/22] rv: Allow to configure the number of per-task monitor Nam Cao
2025-08-10 21:12 ` [PATCH v4 00/22] RV: Linear temporal logic monitors for RT application patchwork-bot+linux-riscv

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