From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/12] Private MMIO support for private assigned dev
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 14:56:58 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250515175658.GR382960@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aCYQdDrYYZRAgsen@yilunxu-OptiPlex-7050>
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 12:04:04AM +0800, Xu Yilun wrote:
> > arches this was mostly invisible to the hypervisor?
>
> Attest & Accept can be invisible to hypervisor, or host just help pass
> data blobs between guest, firmware & device.
>
> Bind cannot be host agnostic, host should be aware not to touch device
> after Bind.
I'm not sure this is fully true, this could be a Intel thing. When the
vPCI is created the host can already know it shouldn't touch the PCI
device anymore and the secure world would enforce that when it gets a
bind command.
The fact it hasn't been locked out immediately at vPCI creation time
is sort of a detail that doesn't matter, IMHO.
> > It might be reasonable to have VFIO reach into iommufd to do that on
> > an already existing iommufd VDEVICE object. A little weird, but we
> > could probably make that work.
>
> Mm, Are you proposing an uAPI in VFIO, and a kAPI from VFIO -> IOMMUFD like:
>
> ioctl(vfio_fd, VFIO_DEVICE_ATTACH_VDEV, vdev_id)
> -> iommufd_device_attach_vdev()
> -> tsm_tdi_bind()
Not ATTACH, you wanted BIND. You could have a VFIO_DEVICE_BIND(iommufd
vdevice id)
> > sees VFIO remove the S-EPT and release the KVM, then have iommufd
> > destroy the VDEVICE object.
>
> Regarding VM destroy, TDX Connect has more enforcement, VM could only be
> destroyed after all assigned CC vPCI devices are destroyed.
And KVM destroys the VM?
> Nowadays, VFIO already holds KVM reference, so we need
>
> close(vfio_fd)
> -> iommufd_device_detach_vdev()
This doesn't happen though, it destroys the normal device (idev) which
the vdevice is stacked on top of. You'd have to make normal device
destruction trigger vdevice destruction
> -> tsm_tdi_unbind()
> -> tdi stop
> -> callback to VFIO, dmabuf_move_notify(revoke)
> -> KVM unmap MMIO
> -> tdi metadata remove
This omits the viommu. It won't get destroyed until the iommufd
closes, so iommufd will be holding the kvm and it will do the final
put.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-15 17:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-07 14:27 [RFC PATCH 00/12] Private MMIO support for private assigned dev Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] dma-buf: Introduce dma_buf_get_pfn_unlocked() kAPI Xu Yilun
2025-01-08 8:01 ` Christian König
2025-01-08 13:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 13:44 ` Christian König
2025-01-08 14:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 15:25 ` Christian König
2025-01-08 16:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 17:56 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 19:24 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-10 20:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 18:44 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-08 19:22 ` Xu Yilun
[not found] ` <58e97916-e6fd-41ef-84b4-bbf53ed0e8e4@amd.com>
2025-01-08 23:06 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 19:34 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-10 20:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-12 22:10 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-14 14:44 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-14 17:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 8:55 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-15 9:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-15 13:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-16 5:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-06-19 23:39 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-16 13:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <420bd2ea-d87c-4f01-883e-a7a5cf1635fe@amd.com>
2025-01-17 14:42 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-20 12:14 ` Christian König
2025-01-20 17:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-20 18:50 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-20 19:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-21 16:11 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-21 17:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 11:04 ` Simona Vetter
2025-01-22 13:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 13:29 ` Christian König
2025-01-22 14:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 14:59 ` Christian König
2025-01-23 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <9a36fba5-2dee-46fd-9f51-47c5f0ffc1d4@amd.com>
2025-01-23 14:35 ` Christian König
2025-01-23 15:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <89f46c7f-a585-44e2-963d-bf00bf09b493@amd.com>
2025-01-23 16:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-09 8:09 ` Christian König
2025-01-10 20:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 9:38 ` Christian König
2025-01-15 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <f6c2524f-5ef5-4c2c-a464-a7b195e0bf6c@amd.com>
2025-01-15 13:46 ` Christian König
2025-01-15 14:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <c86cfee1-063a-4972-a343-ea0eff2141c9@amd.com>
2025-01-15 14:30 ` Christian König
2025-01-15 15:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <6f7a14aa-f607-45f9-9e15-759e26079dec@amd.com>
2025-01-15 17:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <5f588dac-d3e2-445d-9389-067b875412dc@amd.com>
2024-06-20 22:02 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-20 13:44 ` Christian König
2025-01-22 4:16 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-16 16:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-17 14:37 ` Simona Vetter
[not found] ` <0e7f92bd-7da3-4328-9081-0957b3d155ca@amd.com>
2025-01-09 9:28 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] vfio: Export vfio device get and put registration helpers Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] vfio/pci: Share the core device pointer while invoking feature functions Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] vfio/pci: Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] vfio/pci: Support get_pfn() callback for dma-buf Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] KVM: Support vfio_dmabuf backed MMIO region Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle page fault for vfio_dmabuf backed MMIO Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] vfio/pci: Create host unaccessible dma-buf for private device Xu Yilun
2025-01-08 13:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-08 16:57 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-09 14:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-09 16:40 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-10 13:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-11 3:48 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-13 16:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-17 23:28 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-14 13:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-15 12:57 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-15 13:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-17 1:57 ` Baolu Lu
2025-01-17 13:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-23 19:59 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-20 13:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-06-24 21:12 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-21 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-22 4:32 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-22 12:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-23 7:41 ` Xu Yilun
2025-01-23 13:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-20 4:41 ` Baolu Lu
2025-01-20 9:45 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-01-20 13:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-12 1:37 ` Dan Williams
2025-03-17 16:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] vfio/pci: Export vfio dma-buf specific info for importers Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] KVM: vfio_dmabuf: Fetch VFIO specific dma-buf data for sanity check Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Export kvm_is_mmio_pfn() Xu Yilun
2025-01-07 14:27 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] KVM: TDX: Implement TDX specific private MMIO map/unmap for SEPT Xu Yilun
2025-04-29 6:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] Private MMIO support for private assigned dev Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-04-29 7:50 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-09 3:04 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-09 11:12 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-09 16:28 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-09 18:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-10 3:47 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-12 9:30 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-12 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-13 10:03 ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-14 9:47 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14 20:05 ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-15 18:02 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 19:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 6:19 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-16 12:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-17 2:33 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-20 10:57 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-24 3:33 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 10:29 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-15 16:44 ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-15 16:53 ` Zhi Wang
2025-05-21 10:41 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-14 7:02 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14 16:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 16:04 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-15 17:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-05-16 6:03 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-22 3:45 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-24 3:13 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-26 7:18 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-29 14:41 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-29 16:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 16:07 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-30 2:29 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-05-30 16:23 ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-10 4:20 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2025-06-10 5:19 ` Baolu Lu
2025-06-10 6:53 ` Xu Yilun
2025-05-14 3:20 ` Xu Yilun
2025-06-10 4:37 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
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