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From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Marcel Ziswiler <marcel.ziswiler@codethink.co.uk>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vineeth Pillai <vineeth@bitbyteword.org>
Subject: Re: SCHED_DEADLINE tasks missing their deadline with SCHED_FLAG_RECLAIM jobs in the mix (using GRUB)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 16:16:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250620161606.2ff81fb1@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250620113745.6833bccb@luca64>

On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 11:37:45 +0200
luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it> wrote:
[...]
> > Luca, Vineeth (for the recent introduction of max_bw), maybe we
> > could take a step back and re-check (and maybe and document better
> > :) what each variable is meant to do and how it gets updated?  
> 
> I am not sure about the funny values initially assigned to these
> variables, but I can surely provide some documentation about what
> these variables represent... I am going to look at this and I'll send
> some comments or patches.

So, I had a look tying to to remember the situation... This is my
current understanding:
- the max_bw field should be just the maximum amount of CPU bandwidth we
  want to use with reclaiming... It is rt_runtime_us / rt_period_us; I
  guess it is cached in this field just to avoid computing it every
  time.
  So, max_bw should be updated only when
  /proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_{runtime,period}_us are written
- the extra_bw field represents an additional amount of CPU bandwidth
  we can reclaim on each core (the original m-GRUB algorithm just
  reclaimed Uinact, the utilization of inactive tasks).
  It is initialized to Umax when no SCHED_DEADLINE tasks exist and
  should be decreased by Ui when a task with utilization Ui becomes
  SCHED_DEADLINE (and increased by Ui when the SCHED_DEADLINE task
  terminates or changes scheduling policy). Since this value is
  per_core, Ui is divided by the number of cores in the root domain...
  From what you write, I guess extra_bw is not correctly
  initialized/updated when a new root domain is created?

All this information is probably not properly documented... Should I
improve the description in Documentation/scheduler/sched-deadline.rst
or do you prefer some comments in kernel/sched/deadline.c? (or .h?)


			Luca

> 
> 
> 			Luca


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-20 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-28 18:04 SCHED_DEADLINE tasks missing their deadline with SCHED_FLAG_RECLAIM jobs in the mix (using GRUB) Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-02 13:55 ` Juri Lelli
2025-05-02 14:10   ` luca abeni
2025-05-03 13:14     ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-05 15:53       ` luca abeni
2025-05-03 11:14   ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-07 20:25     ` luca abeni
2025-05-19 13:32       ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-20 16:09         ` luca abeni
2025-05-21  9:59           ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-23 19:46         ` luca abeni
2025-05-25 19:29           ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-05-29  9:39             ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-02 14:59               ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-17 12:21                 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-18 11:24                   ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-20  9:29                     ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-20  9:37                       ` luca abeni
2025-06-20  9:58                         ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-20 14:16                         ` luca abeni [this message]
2025-06-20 15:28                           ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-20 16:52                             ` luca abeni
2025-06-24  7:49                               ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-24 12:59                                 ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-24 15:00                                   ` luca abeni
2025-06-25  9:30                                     ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-25 10:11                                       ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-25 12:50                                         ` luca abeni
2025-06-26 10:59                                           ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-26 11:45                                             ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-25 15:55                                   ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-24 13:36                               ` luca abeni
2025-05-30  9:21             ` luca abeni
2025-06-03 11:18               ` Marcel Ziswiler
2025-06-06 13:16                 ` luca abeni

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