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From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	Luigi De Matteis <ldematteis123@gmail.com>,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 08/14] sched/ext: Add a DL server for sched_ext tasks
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:12:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250630151252.GA2443566@joelnvbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aFnQ-3L6ixL7nSz0@slm.duckdns.org>

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 12:11:07PM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 04:32:23PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > +static struct task_struct *ext_server_pick_task(struct sched_dl_entity *dl_se,
> > +						void *flags)
> > +{
> > +	struct rq_flags *rf = flags;
> > +
> > +	balance_scx(dl_se->rq, dl_se->rq->curr, rf);
> > +	return pick_task_scx(dl_se->rq, rf);
> > +}
> ...
> > +void ext_server_init(struct rq *rq)
> > +{
> > +	struct sched_dl_entity *dl_se = &rq->ext_server;
> > +
> > +	init_dl_entity(dl_se);
> > +
> > +	dl_server_init(dl_se, rq, ext_server_has_tasks, ext_server_pick_task);
> > +}
> 
> Needing to pass in @rf to ext_server_pick_task() makes sense as SCX always
> needs to balance first. However, I still don't understand why that
> necessitates adding @rf to sched_class->pick_task(). The existing assumption
> is that ->pick_task() cannot release and regrab the rq lock and that's why
> ->balance() exists in the first place. Breaking this can lead to other
> misbehaviors - e.g. if a higher priority class ->pick_task() releases the rq
> lock, a lower one may end up losing a task that its ->balance() saw. This
> can lead to lower priority class's ->pick_task() being called without its
> ->balance() being called which can lead to stalls.
> 
> One thing that confuses me is that all that the patchset needs to do seems
> to be adding @rf to dl_server_pick_f and that seems fine to me. Why is it
> necessary to add @rf to sched_class->pick_task()?

Because ext_server_pick_task is called via DL's pick_task?

In deadline.c, pick_task_dl -> _pick_task_dl -> ext_server_pick_task

This changes the signature of the pick_task_dl function, which in turn
changes the signature of class->pick_task.

How about I pass NULL to pick_task_scx() from ext_server_pick_task(), and
also annotate all functions where rf is unused, by naming the argument as
rf_unused (except for DL), would that make it more clear that the rq lock
should not be arbitrarily dropped just because rf was passed? And perhaps
sprinkling some more code comments.

thanks,

 - Joel


  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-30 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-20 20:32 [PATCH v5 00/14] Add a deadline server for sched_ext tasks Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] sched/debug: Fix updating of ppos on server write ops Joel Fernandes
2025-06-23 20:14   ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] sched/debug: Stop and start server based on if it was active Joel Fernandes
2025-06-23 20:16   ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-30 14:11     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] sched/deadline: Clear the defer params Joel Fernandes
2025-06-23 20:17   ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-30 14:30     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] sched/deadline: Prevent setting server as started if params couldn't be applied Joel Fernandes
2025-06-25 12:56   ` Juri Lelli
2025-06-30 14:45     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] sched/deadline: Return EBUSY if dl_bw_cpus is zero Joel Fernandes
2025-06-23 20:20   ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-30 14:50     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] sched: Add support to pick functions to take rf Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] sched: Add a server arg to dl_server_update_idle_time() Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] sched/ext: Add a DL server for sched_ext tasks Joel Fernandes
2025-06-23 22:11   ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-30 15:12     ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2025-06-30 15:38       ` Tejun Heo
2025-07-01 13:23         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] sched/debug: Add support to change sched_ext server params Joel Fernandes
2025-06-23 22:12   ` Tejun Heo
2025-06-30 15:26     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] sched/deadline: Add support to remove DLserver's bandwidth contribution Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] sched/ext: Relinquish DL server reservations when not needed Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] selftests/sched_ext: Add test for sched_ext dl_server Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] sched/deadline: Fix DL server crash in inactive_timer callback Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:32 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] selftests/sched_ext: Add test for DL server total_bw consistency Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 20:44 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] Add a deadline server for sched_ext tasks Joel Fernandes
2025-06-23 22:15 ` Tejun Heo

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