From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"lizhe.67@bytedance.com" <lizhe.67@bytedance.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] VFIO updates for v6.17-rc1
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2025 18:53:06 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250804185306.6b048e7c.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whhYRMS7Xc9k_JBdrGvp++JLmU0T2xXEgn046hWrj7q8Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 16:55:09 -0700
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Aug 2025 at 15:22, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Li Zhe (6):
> > mm: introduce num_pages_contiguous()
>
> WHY?
>
> There is exactly *ONE* user, why the heck do we introduce this
> completely pointless "helper" function, and put it in a core header
> file like it was worth it?
There was discussion here[1] where David Hildenbrand and Jason
Gunthorpe suggested this should be in common code and I believe there
was some intent that this would get reused. I took this as
endorsement from mm folks. This can certainly be pulled back into
subsystem code.
> And it's not like that code is some kind of work of art that we want
> to expose everybody to *anyway*. It's written in a particularly stupid
> way that means that it's *way* more expensive than it needs to be.
>
> And then it's made "inline" despite the code generation being
> horrible, which makes it all entirely pointless.
>
> Yes, I'm grumpy. This pull request came in late, I'm already
> traveling, and then I look at it and it just makes me *angry* at how
> bad that code is, and how annoying it is.
Sorry, I usually try to get in later during the first week to let the
dust settle a bit from the bigger subsystems, I guess I'm running a
little behind this cycle. We'll get it fixed and I'll resend. Thanks,
Alex
> My builds are already slower than usual because they happen on my
> laptop while traveling, I do *not* need to see this kind of absolutely
> disgusting code that does stupid things that make the build even
> slower.
>
> So I refuse to pull this kind of crap.
>
> If you insist on making my build slower and exposing these kinds of
> helper functions, they had better be *good* helper functions.
>
> Hint: absolutely nobody cares about "the pages crossed a sparsemem
> border. If your driver cares about the number of contiguous pages, it
> might as well say "yeah, they are contiguous, but they are in
> different sparsemem chunks, so we'll break here too".
>
> And at that point all you care about is 'struct page' being
> contiguous, instead of doing that disgusting 'nth_page'.
>
> And then - since there is only *one* single user - you don't put it in
> the most central header file that EVERYBODY ELSE cares about.
>
> And you absolutely don't do it if it generates garbage code for no good reason!
>
> Linus
>
[1]https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250703111216.GG904431@ziepe.ca/
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-04 22:22 [GIT PULL] VFIO updates for v6.17-rc1 Alex Williamson
2025-08-04 23:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-05 0:53 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2025-08-05 7:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 11:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 12:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 12:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 12:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 12:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 13:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-05 13:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-05 13:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-05 13:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-05 13:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 13:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 14:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 14:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 14:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 14:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-05 14:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-05 13:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-05 13:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-08-05 13:55 ` David Hildenbrand
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