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From: Onur <work@onurozkan.dev>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: Benno Lossin <lossin@kernel.org>, Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
	gary@garyguo.net, a.hindborg@kernel.org, aliceryhl@google.com,
	tmgross@umich.edu, dakr@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, will@kernel.org, longman@redhat.com,
	felipe_life@live.com, daniel@sedlak.dev,
	bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:56:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250814185622.468aad30@nimda.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76D4D052-79B6-4D3F-AAA1-164FF7A41284@collabora.com>

On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 09:38:38 -0300
Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com> wrote:

> Hi Onur,
> 
> > On 14 Aug 2025, at 08:13, Onur Özkan <work@onurozkan.dev> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have been brainstorming on the auto-unlocking (on dynamic number
> > of mutexes) idea we have been discussing for some time.
> > 
> > There is a challange with how we handle lock guards and my current
> > thought is to remove direct data dereferencing from guards. Instead,
> > data access would only be possible through a fallible method (e.g.,
> > `try_get`). If the guard is no longer valid, this method would fail
> > to not allow data-accessing after auto-unlock.
> > 
> > In practice, it would work like this:
> > 
> > let a_guard = ctx.lock(mutex_a)?;
> > let b_guard = ctx.lock(mutex_b)?;
> > 
> > // Suppose user tries to lock `mutex_c` without aborting the
> > // entire function (for some reason). This means that even on
> > // failure, `a_guard` and `b_guard` will still be accessible.
> > if let Ok(c_guard) = ctx.lock(mutex_c) {
> >     // ...some logic
> > }
> > 
> > let a_data = a_guard.try_get()?;
> > let b_data = b_guard.try_get()?;
> 
> Can you add more code here? How is this going to look like with the
> two closures we’ve been discussing?

Didn't we said that tuple-based closures are not sufficient when
dealing with a dynamic number of locks (ref [1]) and ww_mutex is mostly
used with dynamic locks? I thought implementing that approach is not
worth it (at least for now) because of that.

[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/DBS8REY5E82S.3937FAHS25ANA@kernel.org

Regards,
Onur

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-14 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-21 18:44 [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support Onur Özkan
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] rust: add C wrappers for `ww_mutex` inline functions Onur Özkan
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] implement ww_mutex abstraction for the Rust tree Onur Özkan
2025-06-22  9:18   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 13:04     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 13:44       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 14:47         ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 15:14           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 17:11             ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 23:22               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24  5:34                 ` Onur
2025-06-24  8:20                   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 12:31                     ` Onur
2025-06-24 12:48                       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 13:39             ` Onur
2025-07-07 15:31               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-07 18:06                 ` Onur
2025-07-07 19:48                   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-08 14:21                     ` Onur
2025-08-01 21:22                     ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 10:42                       ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-02 13:41                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-08-02 14:15                         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-02 20:58                           ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-05 15:18                             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-05  9:08                           ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-05 12:41                             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-05 13:50                               ` Onur Özkan
2025-06-23 11:51   ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-23 13:26   ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 18:17     ` Onur
2025-06-23 21:54       ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 18:44 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] add KUnit coverage on Rust `ww_mutex` implementation Onur Özkan
2025-06-22  9:16 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] rust: add `ww_mutex` support Benno Lossin
2025-07-24 13:53 ` Onur Özkan
2025-07-29 17:15   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-30 10:24     ` Onur Özkan
2025-07-30 10:55       ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-05 16:22   ` Lyude Paul
2025-08-05 17:56     ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-06  5:57     ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-06 17:37       ` Lyude Paul
2025-08-06 19:30         ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-14 11:13           ` Onur Özkan
2025-08-14 12:38             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-14 15:56               ` Onur [this message]
2025-08-14 18:22                 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-08-18 12:56                   ` Onur Özkan
2025-09-01 10:05                     ` Onur Özkan
2025-09-01 12:28                       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-02 16:53                   ` Onur
2025-09-03  6:24                     ` Onur
2025-09-03 13:04                       ` Daniel Almeida

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