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From: Ben Collins <bcollins@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Lechner" <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 5/5] iio: mcp9600: Add support for IIR filter
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 16:00:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025081815-encouraging-swift-df1d16@boujee-and-buff> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250818201035.7a107dec@jic23-huawei>

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On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 08:10:35PM -0500, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> 
> > > >  	case IIO_CHAN_INFO_SCALE:
> > > >  		*val = 62;
> > > >  		*val2 = 500000;
> > > >  		return IIO_VAL_INT_PLUS_MICRO;
> > > > +  
> > > If you want the extra space put it in previous patch.
> > >   
> > > >  	case IIO_CHAN_INFO_THERMOCOUPLE_TYPE:
> > > >  		*val = mcp9600_tc_types[data->thermocouple_type];
> > > >  		return IIO_VAL_CHAR;
> > > > +
> > > > +	case IIO_CHAN_INFO_LOW_PASS_FILTER_3DB_FREQUENCY:
> > > > +		if (data->filter_level == 0)  
> > > 
> > > Return the current requested value. An error is just going to confuse
> > > someone who tried to write this before enabling the filter and then
> > > checked to see if the write was successful.  
> > 
> > I could not get a concensus on this. On the one hand, if a user sets a
> > value here, would they not assume that the filter was enabled? What
> > about cases where a filter_type can be more than one valid type with
> > different available coefficients for each? What should it show then?
> 
> So I was thinking of this like other things with 'enables' such as events.
> For those you always set the value first.  They don't really have a type
> field though (well they do but the ABI allows multiple at once unlike filters
> so we end up with a quite different looking ABI).
> 
> Agreed it gets challenging with multiple filter types. If it weren't for
> advertising the range I'd suggest just stashing whatever was written and
> then mapping it to nearest possible when the filter type is set.
> That's what the ad7124 does for changing between filters anyway
> though oddly it doesn't seem to have a control for filter type.
> 
> This is a good argument against the whole 'none' value for filter type
> - that's not much used so we could deprecate it for new drivers.
> 
> I'm not particularly keen on filter_enable but seems we are coming back
> around to that option to avoid this corner case.  Alternative being what
> you have here which isn't great for ease of use.

I'm somewhat wondering if the filter frequency and frequency_available
attributes should not even show in sysfs unless the filter_type was
something other than "none".

> So for next version let's go for that. Make sure to include Documentation
> in a separate patch though so it's easy to see an poke holes in.

Just to make sure I understand, you'd like to see a filter_enable
attribute and filter_type would not contain "none", then frequency and
frequency_available would always show something for whatever was in
filter_type?

> ABI design is a pain sometimes.

The epitome of being able to paint yourself into a corner.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-18 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-18  3:59 [PATCH v5 0/5] iio: mcp9600: Features and improvements Ben Collins
2025-08-18  3:59 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] dt-bindings: iio: mcp9600: Add microchip,mcp9601 and add constraints Ben Collins
2025-08-18  6:28   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-18 17:20     ` Conor Dooley
2025-08-18  6:33   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-08-18  6:46     ` Ben Collins
2025-08-18  6:40   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-18  6:52     ` Ben Collins
2025-08-18  3:59 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] iio: mcp9600: White space and fixed width cleanup Ben Collins
2025-08-18  3:59 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] iio: mcp9600: Recognize chip id for mcp9601 Ben Collins
2025-08-18 18:03   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-18  3:59 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] iio: mcp9600: Add support for thermocouple-type Ben Collins
2025-08-18  3:59 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] iio: mcp9600: Add support for IIR filter Ben Collins
2025-08-18 18:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-18 18:47     ` Ben Collins
2025-08-18 18:59       ` David Lechner
2025-08-18 19:31         ` Ben Collins
2025-08-18 19:10       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-18 20:00         ` Ben Collins [this message]
2025-08-19 18:28           ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-19 18:38             ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-08-19 20:41               ` Ben Collins
2025-08-19 20:37             ` Ben Collins

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