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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>
Cc: david@redhat.com, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
	npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
	baohua@kernel.org, shikemeng@huaweicloud.com, kasong@tencent.com,
	nphamcs@gmail.com, bhe@redhat.com, chrisl@kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] huge_mm.h: disallow is_huge_zero_folio(NULL)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:53:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250827165309.44e465ff214e45f1a6665b24@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250827150330.280399-1-max.kellermann@ionos.com>

On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 17:03:30 +0200 Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com> wrote:

> Calling is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) should not be legal - it makes no
> sense, and a different (theoretical) implementation may dereference
> the pointer.  But currently, lacking any explicit documentation, this
> call is possible.
> 
> But if somebody really passes NULL, the function should not return
> true - this isn't the huge zero folio after all!  However, if the
> `huge_zero_folio` hasn't been allocated yet, it's NULL, and
> is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) just happens to return true, which is a lie.
> 
> This weird side effect prevented me from reproducing a kernel crash
> that occurred when the elements of a folio_batch were NULL - since
> folios_put_refs() skips huge zero folios, this sometimes causes a
> crash, but sometimes does not.  For debugging, it is better to reveal
> such bugs reliably and not hide them behind random preconditions like
> "has the huge zero folio already been created?"
> 
> To improve detection of such bugs, David Hildenbrand suggested adding
> a VM_WARN_ON_ONCE().
>
> ...
>
> --- a/include/linux/huge_mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/huge_mm.h
> @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
>  #ifndef _LINUX_HUGE_MM_H
>  #define _LINUX_HUGE_MM_H
>  
> +#include <linux/mmdebug.h> // for VM_WARN_ON_ONCE()
>  #include <linux/mm_types.h>
>  
>  #include <linux/fs.h> /* only for vma_is_dax() */
> @@ -479,6 +480,8 @@ extern unsigned long huge_zero_pfn;
>  
>  static inline bool is_huge_zero_folio(const struct folio *folio)
>  {
> +	VM_WARN_ON_ONCE(folio == NULL);
> +
>  	return READ_ONCE(huge_zero_folio) == folio;
>  }

OK, but it remains the case that we have seen code which calls
is_huge_zero_folio() prior to the initialization of huge_zero_folio.

Is this a bug?  I think so.  Should we be checking for recurrences of
this bug?


Also, sigh.  I do dislike seeing VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() in an inline
function - heaven knows how much bloat that adds.  Defconfig
mm/huge_memory.o (which has three calls) grows by 80 bytes so I guess
that's livable with.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27 23:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-26 23:16 [PATCH 1/2] huge_mm.h: is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) should return false Max Kellermann
2025-08-26 23:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/swap: add BUG_ON(folio==NULL) to folios_put_refs() Max Kellermann
2025-08-27  1:42   ` Zi Yan
2025-08-27  2:12     ` Chris Li
2025-08-27  9:38   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27  1:19 ` [PATCH 1/2] huge_mm.h: is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) should return false Zi Yan
2025-08-27  1:55 ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-27  4:39   ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-27  9:36     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 10:13       ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 11:56         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 13:06           ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 14:34             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 15:03               ` [PATCH v2] huge_mm.h: disallow is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 15:16                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 15:38                   ` Max Kellermann
2025-08-27 20:01                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 20:26                     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 20:44                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28  8:48                     ` [PATCH v3] " Max Kellermann
2025-08-28  9:35                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29  1:25                       ` Zi Yan
2025-08-27 23:53                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2025-08-28  5:17                   ` [PATCH v2] " Max Kellermann
2025-08-28  7:57                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-08-27 15:05               ` [PATCH 1/2] huge_mm.h: is_huge_zero_folio(NULL) should return false Max Kellermann
2025-08-27  9:35   ` David Hildenbrand

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