From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Xi Wang <xii@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>,
Songtang Liu <liusongtang@bytedance.com>,
Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
Matteo Martelli <matteo.martelli@codethink.co.uk>,
Michal Koutn?? <mkoutny@suse.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/5] sched/fair: Switch to task based throttle model
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 15:04:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250904070407.GD42@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ddd2f979-43d5-43e8-a95c-37a1654189e5@amd.com>
On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 11:14:31AM +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> On 9/4/2025 1:57 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > So this is mostly tasks leaving/joining the class/cgroup. And its
> > purpose seems to be to remove/add the blocked load component.
> >
> > Previously throttle/unthrottle would {de,en}queue the whole subtree from
> > PELT, see how {en,de}queue would also stop at throttle.
> >
> > But now none of that is done; PELT is fully managed by the tasks
> > {de,en}queueing.
> >
> > So I'm thinking that when a task joins fair (deboost from RT or
> > whatever), we add the blocking load and fully propagate it. If the task
> > is subject to throttling, that will then happen 'naturally' and it will
> > dequeue itself again.
>
> That seems like the correct thing to do yes. Those throttled_cfs_rq()
> checks in propagate_entity_cfs_rq() can be removed then.
>
Not sure if I understand correctly, I've come to the below code
according to your discussion:
diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index 3e927b9b7eeb6..97ae561c60f5b 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -5234,6 +5234,7 @@ place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int flags)
static void check_enqueue_throttle(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq);
static inline int cfs_rq_throttled(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq);
+static inline int cfs_rq_pelt_clock_throttled(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq);
static void
requeue_delayed_entity(struct sched_entity *se);
@@ -5729,6 +5730,11 @@ static inline int cfs_rq_throttled(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
return cfs_bandwidth_used() && cfs_rq->throttled;
}
+static inline int cfs_rq_pelt_clock_throttled(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
+{
+ return cfs_bandwidth_used() && cfs_rq->pelt_clock_throttled;
+}
+
/* check whether cfs_rq, or any parent, is throttled */
static inline int throttled_hierarchy(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
{
@@ -6721,6 +6727,11 @@ static inline int cfs_rq_throttled(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
return 0;
}
+static inline int cfs_rq_pelt_clock_throttled(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
+{
+ return 0;
+}
+
static inline int throttled_hierarchy(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
{
return 0;
@@ -13154,10 +13165,7 @@ static void propagate_entity_cfs_rq(struct sched_entity *se)
{
struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
- if (cfs_rq_throttled(cfs_rq))
- return;
-
- if (!throttled_hierarchy(cfs_rq))
+ if (!cfs_rq_pelt_clock_throttled(cfs_rq))
list_add_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
/* Start to propagate at parent */
@@ -13168,10 +13176,7 @@ static void propagate_entity_cfs_rq(struct sched_entity *se)
update_load_avg(cfs_rq, se, UPDATE_TG);
- if (cfs_rq_throttled(cfs_rq))
- break;
-
- if (!throttled_hierarchy(cfs_rq))
+ if (!cfs_rq_pelt_clock_throttled(cfs_rq))
list_add_leaf_cfs_rq(cfs_rq);
}
}
So this means when a task left/joined a cfs_rq, we will do propagate
immediately, no matter if the cfs_rq is throttled or has its pelt clock
stopped or not; if cfs_rq still has pelt clock running, it will be added
to leaf cfs_rq list to make sure its load can be decayed. If cfs_rq's
pelt clock is stopped, it will be added to leaf cfs_rq list if necessary
by enqueue_task_fair() or when it's unthrottled.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-04 7:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-29 8:11 [PATCH v4 0/5] Defer throttle when task exits to user Aaron Lu
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] sched/fair: Add related data structure for task based throttle Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] sched/fair: Implement throttle task work and related helpers Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] sched/fair: Switch to task based throttle model Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Valentin Schneider
2025-09-03 14:51 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] " Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-03 17:12 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-03 20:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-04 5:44 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-04 7:04 ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2025-09-05 11:37 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-05 12:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-03 20:46 ` Benjamin Segall
2025-09-04 6:03 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-04 8:16 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-04 9:51 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-04 11:05 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-04 14:20 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-04 12:04 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-05 7:53 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 20:55 ` Benjamin Segall
2025-09-04 11:26 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-04 11:30 ` Aaron Lu
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] sched/fair: Task based throttle time accounting Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Aaron Lu
2025-08-29 8:11 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] sched/fair: Get rid of throttled_lb_pair() Aaron Lu
2025-09-03 8:05 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Aaron Lu
2025-09-01 10:03 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Defer throttle when task exits to user Peter Zijlstra
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