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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Cc: "debug@rivosinc.com" <debug@rivosinc.com>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
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	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Mehta, Sohil" <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] x86/fpu: don't abuse x86_task_fpu(PF_USER_WORKER) in .regset_get() paths
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 15:44:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250904134438.GA23718@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <78d2f583a0d3008c7d0e2b0e6b70a1b3258cc659.camel@intel.com>

On 09/03, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2025-09-03 at 11:54 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > Hmm, I actually do see a potential concrete issue...
> > >
> > > fpu_clone() will wipe out the FPU state for PF_USER_WORKER, which means if
> > > xsaves decides to use the init optimization for CET, "get_xsave_addr(xsave,
> > > XFEATURE_CET_USER)" could return NULL and trigger a warning.
> >
> > Even if get_xsave_addr() returns a valid pointer, what is the point to try to
> > report cetregs->user_ssp which doesn't match the reality?
> > Again, update_fpu_shstk() was not called, ->user_ssp can't be correct.
>
> I think it would be better to have less special cases in the FPU.

Agreed,

> I'm not sure
> what you mean by "correct". As above, it gets zeroed in fpu_clone(). I guess you
> want it to be something else.

Well. I think that if copy_thread() path allocate the shadow stack, then
ssp_get() should report the value returned by shstk_alloc_thread_stack().
If the thread runs without shstk/ARCH_SHSTK_SHSTK ssp_get() should return
-ENODEV. Regardless of PF_USER_WORKER.

Now lets recall that my actual motivation is "don't abuse x86_task_fpu(PF_USER_WORKER)",
and we also have ssp_set(). Without this patch which clears ARCH_SHSTK_SHSTK
ssp_set() -> x86_task_fpu(PF_USER_WORKER) has to return a "real" FPU state.

Oleg.


      reply	other threads:[~2025-09-04 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 15:36 [PATCH v2 0/5] x86/fpu: don't abuse x86_task_fpu(PF_USER_WORKER) in .regset_get() paths Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86/fpu: don't use x86_task_fpu() in copy_xstate_to_uabi_buf() Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] x86/fpu: regset: introduce get_fpstate() helper Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] x86/fpu: fold sync_fpstate() into get_fpstate() Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:37 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] x86/shstk: don't create the shadow stack for PF_USER_WORKERs Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 15:37 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] x86/fpu: change get_fpstate() to return &init_fpstate if PF_USER_WORKER Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] x86/fpu: don't abuse x86_task_fpu(PF_USER_WORKER) in .regset_get() paths Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-22 19:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-22 20:01     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-25 13:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-27 14:12         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-27 14:51           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-28 21:48             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29 15:06               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-02 20:37                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-03  9:54                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-09-03 15:46                     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-04 13:44                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]

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