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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, longman@redhat.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mkoutny@suse.com, void@manifault.com, arighi@nvidia.com,
	changwoo@igalia.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, liuwenfang@honor.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 2/3] sched: Add support to pick functions to take rf
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:09:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251013110911.GF4068168@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251013110449.GJ4067720@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 01:04:49PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> Bah; so yeah, this new behaviour is better for indeed always calling
> newidle when it is needed, but you're also right that in case of ext
> this might not be ideal.
> 
> So I have a pile of newidle hacks here:
> 
>   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20251010170937.GG4067720@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net
> 
> and while I don't particularly like NI_SPARE (the has_spare_tasks thing
> is fickle); the idea seems to have some merit for this situation --
> where we know we'll not be having fair tasks at all.
> 
> I mean, we can always do something like this to sched_balance_newidle():
> 
> 	if (scx_switched_all())
> 		return 0;
> 
> Not pretty, but should do the job.

Oh, never mind, none of this is needed.

__pick_next_task()

	if (scx_enabled())
	  goto restart;

	...
restart:
	for_each_active_class(class) {
		...
	}


And then we have next_active_class() skip fair_sched_class entirely when
scx_switch_all().

So in the common ext case, we'll not hit pick_next_task_fair() at all.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-13 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-06 10:46 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] sched/ext: Cleanup pick_task_scx() Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] sched: Detect per-class runqueue changes Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-07 10:08   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-07 10:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-07 10:26       ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 10:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] sched: Add support to pick functions to take rf Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 13:16   ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-08 13:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 15:22       ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-08 20:34         ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-09  7:17           ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-13 11:04             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-13 11:09               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-10-13 13:06                 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-10-13 17:20                   ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Joel Fernandes
2025-10-06 10:46 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] sched/ext: Fold balance_scx() into pick_task_scx() Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-16  9:33   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-07 12:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] sched/ext: Cleanup pick_task_scx() Christian Loehle
2025-10-07 21:48 ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-08  9:11   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-08 20:21     ` Tejun Heo

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