From: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
To: Hao Jia <jiahao.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
"Ben Segall" <bsegall@google.com>,
"K Prateek Nayak" <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: Prevent cfs_rq from being unthrottled with zero runtime_remaining
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 17:11:13 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251014090728.GA41@bytedance> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c4a1bcea-fb00-6f3f-6bf6-d876393190e4@gmail.com>
Hi Hao,
On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 03:43:10PM +0800, Hao Jia wrote:
>
> Hello Aaron,
>
> On 2025/9/29 15:46, Aaron Lu wrote:
> > When a cfs_rq is to be throttled, its limbo list should be empty and
> > that's why there is a warn in tg_throttle_down() for non empty
> > cfs_rq->throttled_limbo_list.
> >
> > When running a test with the following hierarchy:
> >
> > root
> > / \
> > A* ...
> > / | \ ...
> > B
> > / \
> > C*
> >
> > where both A and C have quota settings, that warn on non empty limbo list
> > is triggered for a cfs_rq of C, let's call it cfs_rq_c(and ignore the cpu
> > part of the cfs_rq for the sake of simpler representation).
> >
>
> I encountered a similar warning a while ago and fixed it. I have a question
> I'd like to ask. tg_unthrottle_up(cfs_rq_C) calls enqueue_task_fair(p) to
> enqueue a task, which requires that the runtime_remaining of task p's entire
> task_group hierarchy be greater than 0.
>
> In addition to the case you fixed above,
> When bandwidth is running normally, Is it possible that there's a corner
> case where cfs_A->runtime_remaining > 0, but cfs_B->runtime_remaining < 0
> could trigger a similar warning?
Do you mean B also has quota set and cfs_B's runtime_remaining < 0?
In this case, B should be throttled and C is a descendent of B so should
also be throttled, i.e. C can't be unthrottled when B is in throttled
state. Do I understand you correctly?
>
> So, I previously tried to fix this issue using the following code, adding
> the ENQUEUE_THROTTLE flag to ensure that tasks enqueued in
> tg_unthrottle_up() aren't throttled.
>
Yeah I think this can also fix the warning.
I'm not sure if it is a good idea though, because on unthrottle, the
expectation is, this cfs_rq should have runtime_remaining > 0 and if
it's not the case, I think it is better to know why.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-14 9:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-29 7:46 [PATCH] sched/fair: Prevent cfs_rq from being unthrottled with zero runtime_remaining Aaron Lu
2025-09-29 9:34 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-29 10:55 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 7:56 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 8:58 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-30 9:27 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 11:07 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 12:39 ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-30 13:38 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-01 11:58 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-14 7:43 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-14 9:11 ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2025-10-14 11:01 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-14 11:50 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15 1:43 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15 1:48 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15 2:51 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15 6:31 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-15 8:40 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-15 10:21 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-16 6:54 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-16 7:49 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-16 9:23 ` Aaron Lu
2025-10-16 11:04 ` Hao Jia
2025-10-16 11:46 ` Aaron Lu
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