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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>,
	Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
	Dai Ngo <Dai.Ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfsd: Use MD5 library instead of crypto_shash
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 11:07:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251016180702.GD1575@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d85b364d-b7d6-4893-b0eb-3df58ef45ce0@oracle.com>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 09:41:27AM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On 10/12/25 1:00 PM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 12, 2025 at 07:12:26AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2025-10-11 at 11:52 -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> >>> Update NFSD's support for "legacy client tracking" (which uses MD5) to
> >>> use the MD5 library instead of crypto_shash.  This has several benefits:
> >>>
> >>> - Simpler code.  Notably, much of the error-handling code is no longer
> >>>   needed, since the library functions can't fail.
> >>>
> >>> - Improved performance due to reduced overhead.  A microbenchmark of
> >>>   nfs4_make_rec_clidname() shows a speedup from 1455 cycles to 425.
> >>>
> >>> - The MD5 code can now safely be built as a loadable module when nfsd is
> >>>   built as a loadable module.  (Previously, nfsd forced the MD5 code to
> >>>   built-in, presumably to work around the unreliablity of the name-based
> >>>   loading.)  Thus, select MD5 from the tristate option NFSD if
> >>>   NFSD_LEGACY_CLIENT_TRACKING, instead of from the bool option NFSD_V4.
> >>>
> >>> To preserve the existing behavior of legacy client tracking support
> >>> being disabled when the kernel is booted with "fips=1", make
> >>> nfsd4_legacy_tracking_init() return an error if fips_enabled.  I don't
> >>> know if this is truly needed, but it preserves the existing behavior.
> >>>
> >>
> >> FIPS is pretty draconian about algorithms, AIUI. We're not using MD5 in
> >> a cryptographically significant way here, but the FIPS gods won't bless
> >> a kernel that uses MD5 at all, so I think it is needed.
> > 
> > If it's not being used for a security purpose, then I think you can just
> > drop the fips_enabled check.  People are used to the old API where MD5
> > was always forbidden when fips_enabled, but it doesn't actually need to
> > be that strict.  For this patch I wasn't certain about the use case
> > though, so I just opted to preserve the existing behavior for now.  A
> > follow-on patch to remove the check could make sense.
> Eric, were you going to follow up with a fresh revision that drops the
> fips_enabled check?

Sure, if you want.  I see you're also planning to revert my prerequisite
patch "SUNRPC: Make RPCSEC_GSS_KRB5 select CRYPTO instead of depending
on it".  So I also need to work around that by keeping the
'select CRYPTO' in NFSD_V4.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-16 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-11 18:52 [PATCH] nfsd: Use MD5 library instead of crypto_shash Eric Biggers
2025-10-12 11:12 ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-12 17:00   ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-12 17:57     ` Simo Sorce
2025-10-12 18:49     ` Jeff Layton
2025-10-16 13:41     ` Chuck Lever
2025-10-16 18:07       ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2025-10-16 18:12         ` Chuck Lever
2025-10-12 15:59 ` Chuck Lever
2025-10-13 10:46   ` Scott Mayhew
2025-10-13 13:32     ` Chuck Lever
2025-10-14  7:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel

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