From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 10:10:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251030091058.GG4067720@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251027133915.4103633-3-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 01:39:15PM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> +static inline enum preempt_wakeup_action
> +__do_preempt_buddy(struct rq *rq, struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, int wake_flags,
> + struct sched_entity *pse, struct sched_entity *se)
> +{
> + bool pse_before;
> +
> + /*
> + * Ignore wakee preemption on WF_WORK as it is less likely that
> + * there is shared data as exec often follow fork. Do not
> + * preempt for tasks that are sched_delayed as it would violate
> + * EEVDF to forcibly queue an ineligible task.
> + */
> + if (!sched_feat(NEXT_BUDDY) ||
This seems wrong, that would mean wakeup preemption gets killed the
moment you disable NEXT_BUDDY, that can't be right.
> + (wake_flags & WF_FORK) ||
> + (pse->sched_delayed)) {
> + return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_NONE;
> + }
> +
> + /* Reschedule if waker is no longer eligible. */
> + if (!entity_eligible(cfs_rq, se))
> + return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_RESCHED;
That comment isn't accurate, unless you add: && in_task(). That is, if
this is an interrupt doing the wakeup, it has nothing to do with
current.
> + /*
> + * Keep existing buddy if the deadline is sooner than pse.
> + * The downside is that the older buddy may be cache cold
> + * but that is unpredictable where as an earlier deadline
> + * is absolute.
> + */
> + if (cfs_rq->next && entity_before(cfs_rq->next, pse))
> + return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_NONE;
But if previously we set next and didn't preempt, we should try again,
maybe it has more success now. That is, should this not be _NEXT?
> +
> + set_next_buddy(pse);
> +
> + /*
> + * WF_SYNC|WF_TTWU indicates the waker expects to sleep but it is not
> + * strictly enforced because the hint is either misunderstood or
> + * multiple tasks must be woken up.
> + */
> + pse_before = entity_before(pse, se);
> + if (wake_flags & WF_SYNC) {
> + u64 delta = rq_clock_task(rq) - se->exec_start;
> + u64 threshold = sysctl_sched_migration_cost;
> +
> + /*
> + * WF_SYNC without WF_TTWU is not expected so warn if it
> + * happens even though it is likely harmless.
> + */
> + WARN_ON_ONCE(!(wake_flags | WF_TTWU));
s/|/&/ ?
> + if ((s64)delta < 0)
> + delta = 0;
> +
> + /*
> + * WF_RQ_SELECTED implies the tasks are stacking on a
> + * CPU when they could run on other CPUs. Reduce the
> + * threshold before preemption is allowed to an
> + * arbitrary lower value as it is more likely (but not
> + * guaranteed) the waker requires the wakee to finish.
> + */
> + if (wake_flags & WF_RQ_SELECTED)
> + threshold >>= 2;
> +
> + /*
> + * As WF_SYNC is not strictly obeyed, allow some runtime for
> + * batch wakeups to be issued.
> + */
> + if (pse_before && delta >= threshold)
> + return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_RESCHED;
> +
> + return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_NONE;
> + }
> +
> + return PREEMPT_WAKEUP_NEXT;
> +}
Add to this that AFAICT your patch ends up doing:
__pick_eevdf(.protect = false) == pse
which unconditionally disables the slice protection feature.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-30 9:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20251027133915.4103633-1-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
2025-10-27 13:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Enable scheduler feature NEXT_BUDDY Mel Gorman
2025-10-28 14:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-27 13:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals Mel Gorman
2025-10-28 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-31 9:46 ` Mel Gorman
2025-10-28 15:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-31 9:48 ` Mel Gorman
2025-10-28 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-28 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-30 9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-10-31 10:27 ` Mel Gorman
2025-11-12 12:25 [PATCH 0/2 v5] Reintroduce NEXT_BUDDY for EEVDF Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <20251112122521.1331238-3-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
2025-11-12 14:48 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-13 8:26 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-11-13 9:04 ` Mel Gorman
2025-11-14 12:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-11-03 11:04 [PATCH 0/2 v4] Reintroduce NEXT_BUDDY for EEVDF Mel Gorman
2025-11-03 11:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals Mel Gorman
2025-11-03 14:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-03 14:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-05 21:48 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-11-07 8:53 ` Mel Gorman
2025-10-21 14:28 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Reintroduce NEXT_BUDDY for EEVDF v2 Mel Gorman
2025-10-21 14:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Reimplement NEXT_BUDDY to align with EEVDF goals Mel Gorman
2025-10-23 6:29 ` K Prateek Nayak
[not found] <20250714134429.19624-1-mgorman@techsingularity.net>
2025-07-14 13:44 ` Mel Gorman
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