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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@oracle.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@meta.com>,
	clm@fb.com, Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: [REGRESSION][v6.17-rc1]sched/fair: Bump sd->max_newidle_lb_cost when newidle balance fails
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 10:30:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251030093013.GI4067720@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2aa7380b-bebd-4bb9-8597-49e06d1dcc6d@os.amperecomputing.com>


Hi Adam,

On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 03:22:34PM +0800, Adam Li wrote:

> Commit 155213a2aed4 brings ~6% regression for SpecJBB critical-jOPS on
> AmpereOne server. 
> 
> Baseline: v6.17 kernel + patch. Compared with baseline:
> NI_TARGET	+7%
> NI_SPARE	-3%
> NI_RUNNABLE	-4%
> NI_RANDOM	-3%
> 
> So NI_TARGET reverts the performance regression.
> The other options brings more regression for SpecJBB.

Excellent, how does NI_TARGET+NI_RANDOM work for you? Like Chris, I
found that the schbench workload was really suffering from doing too
many idle balance attempts that weren't really working out.

NI_RANDOM reduces the number of newidle balances based on the success
ratio. Eg. if you have successful balancing 25% of the time, it will do
1 in 4 balances and count a successful balance as 4 to keep the
accounting straight.

So workloads with a high success rate will keep newidle balance calls
frequent, while workloads with a low success rate (like schbench) will
greatly reduce the number of calls.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-30  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-06 20:23 [REGRESSION][v6.17-rc1]sched/fair: Bump sd->max_newidle_lb_cost when newidle balance fails Joseph Salisbury
2025-10-06 21:23 ` Chris Mason
2025-10-07 11:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-10  1:04     ` [External] : " Joseph Salisbury
2025-10-10 17:09       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-17 17:01         ` Joseph Salisbury
2025-10-30  7:29           ` Adam Li
2025-10-31 21:16             ` [External] : " Joseph Salisbury
2025-11-04 18:11             ` Joseph Salisbury
2025-10-30  7:22         ` Adam Li
2025-10-30  9:30           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-10-30 20:53             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2025-10-31  2:46             ` Adam Li
2025-10-10  1:14     ` Joseph Salisbury
2025-10-07 20:22   ` [External] : " Joseph Salisbury
2025-10-10 13:09   ` Hazem Mohamed Abuelfotoh
2025-10-27 18:36   ` Josh Don

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