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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: "Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] futex: Use RCU-based per-CPU reference counting
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2025 10:29:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251106092929.GR4067720@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae8c6fd5-cc9c-44f3-a489-0346873f4be5@linux.ibm.com>

On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 11:51:46PM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:

> > Anyway, I think we can improve both. Does the below help?
> > 
> > 
> > ---
> > diff --git a/kernel/futex/core.c b/kernel/futex/core.c
> > index d9bb5567af0c..8c41d050bd1f 100644
> > --- a/kernel/futex/core.c
> > +++ b/kernel/futex/core.c
> > @@ -1680,10 +1680,10 @@ static bool futex_ref_get(struct futex_private_hash *fph)
> >   {
> >   	struct mm_struct *mm = fph->mm;
> > -	guard(rcu)();
> > +	guard(preempt)();
> > -	if (smp_load_acquire(&fph->state) == FR_PERCPU) {
> > -		this_cpu_inc(*mm->futex_ref);
> > +	if (READ_ONCE(fph->state) == FR_PERCPU) {
> > +		__this_cpu_inc(*mm->futex_ref);
> >   		return true;
> >   	}
> > @@ -1694,10 +1694,10 @@ static bool futex_ref_put(struct futex_private_hash *fph)
> >   {
> >   	struct mm_struct *mm = fph->mm;
> > -	guard(rcu)();
> > +	guard(preempt)();
> > -	if (smp_load_acquire(&fph->state) == FR_PERCPU) {
> > -		this_cpu_dec(*mm->futex_ref);
> > +	if (READ_ONCE(fph->state) == FR_PERCPU) {
> > +		__this_cpu_dec(*mm->futex_ref);
> >   		return false;
> >   	}
> 
> Yes. It helps. It improves "-b 512" numbers by at-least 5%.

While talking with Sebastian about this work, I realized this patch was
never committed. So I've written it up like so, and will commit to
tip/locking/urgent soonish.

---
Subject: futex: Optimize per-cpu reference counting
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 16:29:46 +0200

Shrikanth noted that the per-cpu reference counter was still some 10%
slower than the old immutable option (which removes the reference
counting entirely).

Further optimize the per-cpu reference counter by:

 - switching from RCU to preempt;
 - using __this_cpu_*() since we now have preempt disabled;
 - switching from smp_load_acquire() to READ_ONCE().

This is all safe because disabling preemption inhibits the RCU grace
period exactly like rcu_read_lock().

Having preemption disabled allows using __this_cpu_*() provided the
only access to the variable is in task context -- which is the case
here.

Furthermore, since we know changing fph->state to FR_ATOMIC demands a
full RCU grace period we can rely on the implied smp_mb() from that to
replace the acquire barrier().

This is very similar to the percpu_down_read_internal() fast-path.

The reason this is significant for PowerPC is that it uses the generic
this_cpu_*() implementation which relies on local_irq_disable() (the
x86 implementation relies on it being a single memop instruction to be
IRQ-safe). Switching to preempt_disable() and __this_cpu*() avoids
this IRQ state swizzling. Also, PowerPC needs LWSYNC for the ACQUIRE
barrier, not having to use explicit barriers safes a bunch.

Combined this reduces the performance gap by half, down to some 5%.

Reported-by: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Tested-by: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>
---
 kernel/futex/core.c |   12 ++++++------
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

--- a/kernel/futex/core.c
+++ b/kernel/futex/core.c
@@ -1680,10 +1680,10 @@ static bool futex_ref_get(struct futex_p
 {
 	struct mm_struct *mm = fph->mm;
 
-	guard(rcu)();
+	guard(preempt)();
 
-	if (smp_load_acquire(&fph->state) == FR_PERCPU) {
-		this_cpu_inc(*mm->futex_ref);
+	if (READ_ONCE(fph->state) == FR_PERCPU) {
+		__this_cpu_inc(*mm->futex_ref);
 		return true;
 	}
 
@@ -1694,10 +1694,10 @@ static bool futex_ref_put(struct futex_p
 {
 	struct mm_struct *mm = fph->mm;
 
-	guard(rcu)();
+	guard(preempt)();
 
-	if (smp_load_acquire(&fph->state) == FR_PERCPU) {
-		this_cpu_dec(*mm->futex_ref);
+	if (READ_ONCE(fph->state) == FR_PERCPU) {
+		__this_cpu_dec(*mm->futex_ref);
 		return false;
 	}
 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-06  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-10 11:00 [PATCH v2 0/6] futex: Use RCU-based per-CPU reference counting Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] selftests/futex: Adapt the private hash test to RCU related changes Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] futex: Use RCU-based per-CPU reference counting instead of rcuref_t Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-16  2:38     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-26  0:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-30 12:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] " André Draszik
2025-07-30 19:44     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-01 14:59       ` André Draszik
2025-08-02 13:22       ` [tip: locking/urgent] futex: Move futex cleanup to __mmdrop() tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-21 17:39         ` Breno Leitao
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] futex: Make futex_private_hash_get() static Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] futex: Remove support for IMMUTABLE Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] selftests/futex: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 11:00 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] perf bench futex: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 18:33   ` [tip: locking/futex] " tip-bot2 for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-15 15:59 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] futex: Use RCU-based per-CPU reference counting Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-15 16:31   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-15 17:04     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-07-16 14:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-07-16 18:21         ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-06  9:29           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2025-11-06 11:09             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-06 11:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-06 20:17                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-11-06 11:40             ` [tip: locking/urgent] futex: Optimize per-cpu " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2025-11-06 15:26               ` Shrikanth Hegde

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