From: Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
To: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
"Francesco Dolcini" <francesco@dolcini.it>
Cc: "Tomi Valkeinen" <tomi.valkeinen@ideasonboard.com>,
"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
"João Paulo Gonçalves" <jpaulo.silvagoncalves@gmail.com>,
"Andrzej Hajda" <andrzej.hajda@intel.com>,
"Neil Armstrong" <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
"Robert Foss" <rfoss@kernel.org>,
"Laurent Pinchart" <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
"Jonas Karlman" <jonas@kwiboo.se>,
"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
"João Paulo Gonçalves" <joao.goncalves@toradex.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, regressions@lists.linux.dev,
thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] TI SN65DSI83 is being reset making display to blink On/Off
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 19:40:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251119194023.6239d397@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DECUJMA1JWIC.2PYDSYBID4I94@bootlin.com>
Hi Luca, Francesco, others
On Wed, 19 Nov 2025 18:27:38 +0100
"Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed Nov 19, 2025 at 1:24 PM CET, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
> ...
> >> I might be mistaken, but I don't think the PLL will work if unlocked...
> >> But maybe the case is that it unlocks and lock again right afterwards.
> >> >> João, Francesco, on what hardware do you observe the problem? Which SoC?
> >> >> Which encoder, any previous bridges?
> >> >
> >> > Verdin AM62, TI AM62 SOC, arch/arm64/boot/dts/ti/k3-am62-verdin.dtsi
> >> >
> >> > There is a DPI to DSI bridge in the module, tc358778, it has a 25MHz
> >> > reference clock.
> >> >
> >> > TI AM62 DPI -> Toshiba TC358768 DSI -> TI SN65DSI83 -> Display
> >> >
> >> > From a preliminary investigation this is a HW limitation, we are not
> >> > able to generate a "good enough" DSI clock, see tc358768_calc_pll() for
>
> Thanks Francesco for the feedback!
>
> I'm not sure I completely understand the issue described, but if the TI
> bridge requires a clock that cannot be provided by the hardware, then this
> actually looks like "a HW limitation" as you wrote, due to a HW integration
> limitation/bug/issue/whatever. In case this is confirmed, I think quirks
> are an appropriate tool to handle HW integration issues.
>
> >> I haven't studied the docs or done any testing, but I would think that
> >> it doesn't matter for the PLL even if the incoming DSI clock is a bit
> >> off, as long as it's continuous and stable.
> >>
> >> My first thought was that the DSI is using non-continuous clock, but at
> >> least the driver has code to drop the MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTINUOUS flag.
> >>
> >> > the actual code implementation of it, I believe that the datasheet is
> >> > not available without NDA.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe the ugly hack "works-without-pll" is the way to work? It will
> >> > require a DT change, but this seems doable.
> >>
> >> Revert is easier than adding new hacky DT properties... At least until
> >> the problem is understood.
> >>
> >> > Please note that this is the outcome of a short investigation done
> >> > yesterday afternoon, so maybe I am overlooking something, unfortunately
> >> > I do not have the bandwidth to work on it more this week.
> >> >
> >> >> Which clock rates?
> >> > 71100000
> >> It would be a good test to try out with a few different clocks.
> >
> > 50 MHz works, for example.
> >
> > It seems that the issue exists when the actual display clock is different
> > from the dsi clock. And this can happen for the reason I explained
> > before (the DSI clock is computed starting from this 25MHz reference
> > clock).
>
If there is no way to set a correct clock, I agree with Luca a quirk should
be the best solution.
For instance, in the dts:
ti,pll_may_unlock_quirk;
In the driver, mask the PLL unlock status bit from monitoring (polling
and irq) if this boolean property is true:
- Mask IRQ PLL Unlock bit in REG_IRQ_EN when IRQ are enabled
- Mask IRQ PLL Unlock bit in REG_IRQ_STAT in sn65dsi83_handle_errors() to
avoid a recover process on PLL unlock.
Best regards,
Hervé
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-19 18:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-10 19:03 [REGRESSION] TI SN65DSI83 is being reset making display to blink On/Off João Paulo Gonçalves
2025-11-13 7:49 ` Herve Codina
2025-11-13 9:19 ` Francesco Dolcini
2025-11-17 15:27 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-18 16:56 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-19 7:51 ` Herve Codina
2025-11-19 8:40 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-19 9:39 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-11-19 10:08 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 11:12 ` Francesco Dolcini
2025-11-19 12:09 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2025-11-19 12:24 ` Francesco Dolcini
2025-11-19 17:27 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-19 18:40 ` Herve Codina [this message]
2025-11-20 9:50 ` Philippe Schenker
2025-11-21 9:58 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 12:12 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 14:12 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-24 16:44 ` Emanuele Ghidoli
2025-11-24 15:55 ` Maxime Ripard
2025-11-24 17:00 ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-11-21 9:57 ` Maxime Ripard
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