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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	skhawaja@google.com, pasha.tatashin@soleen.com,
	Zhang Yu <zhangyu1@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Jean Philippe-Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/8] iommu: Add a helper to check if any iommu device is registered
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2025 14:28:35 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251203142835.00002a0c@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64a01f42-9231-481a-b8f7-5c5dfed4b095@linux.intel.com>

Hi Baolu,

On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 11:31:27 +0800
Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com> wrote:

> On 12/3/25 08:06, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > Hi Baolu,
> > 
> > On Tue, 2 Dec 2025 10:17:34 +0800
> > Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> Hi Jacob,
> >>
> >> On 12/2/25 01:30, Jacob Pan wrote:  
> >>> The dummy IOMMU driver for No-IOMMU mode should only be active
> >>> when no real IOMMU devices are present in the system. Introduce a
> >>> helper to check this condition, ensuring that the dummy driver
> >>> does not interfere when hardware-backed IOMMU support is
> >>> available.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Jacob Pan<jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>    drivers/iommu/iommu.c | 10 ++++++++++
> >>>    include/linux/iommu.h |  1 +
> >>>    2 files changed, 11 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
> >>> index 0df914a04064..958f612bf176 100644
> >>> --- a/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
> >>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/iommu.c
> >>> @@ -2895,6 +2895,16 @@ static const struct iommu_device
> >>> *iommu_from_fwnode(const struct fwnode_handle * return ret;
> >>>    }
> >>>    
> >>> +bool iommu_is_registered(void)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	bool registered;
> >>> +
> >>> +	spin_lock(&iommu_device_lock);
> >>> +	registered = !list_empty(&iommu_device_list);
> >>> +	spin_unlock(&iommu_device_lock);
> >>> +	return registered;
> >>> +}  
> >>
> >> IOMMU devices might be added by calling iommu_device_register() at
> >> any time. Therefore, an empty iommu_device_list does not
> >> necessarily mean that "no real IOMMU devices are present in the
> >> system."  
> > Good point. My intention was that the noiommu dummy driver should
> > register only after all hardware IOMMU drivers have completed
> > registration during boot. Any subsequent registration attempt, such
> > as a hot-added IOMMU, should fail if noiommu mode is already active.
> > 
> > We could enforce this by introducing a global flag that prevents any
> > iommu_device from being registered after the noiommu driver has been
> > initialized.
> > 
> > However, as you pointed out there seems to be no standard ordering
> > for iommu device registration across platforms. e.g. VT-d hooks up
> > with x86_init, smmuv3 does that in platform driver probe. This
> > patchset puts dummy driver under early_initcall which is after both
> > but not a guarantee for all platforms. Any suggestions?  
> 
> Could we add a helper call inside the IOMMU detection path (e.g.,
> within pci_iommu_alloc()) to set a flag, such as
> platform_iommu_present, after successful hardware detection?
> 
> void __init pci_iommu_alloc(void)
> {
>          if (xen_pv_domain()) {
>                  pci_xen_swiotlb_init();
>                  return;
>          }
>          pci_swiotlb_detect();
>          gart_iommu_hole_init();
>          amd_iommu_detect();
>          detect_intel_iommu();
>          swiotlb_init(x86_swiotlb_enable, x86_swiotlb_flags);
> }
I think this would only work for x86.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-03 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-01 17:30 [RFC 0/8] iommufd: Enable noiommu mode for cdev Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 1/8] iommu: Make iommu_device_register_bus available beyond selftest Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 2/8] iommu: Add a helper to check if any iommu device is registered Jacob Pan
2025-12-02  2:17   ` Baolu Lu
2025-12-03  0:06     ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-03  3:31       ` Baolu Lu
2025-12-03 22:28         ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2025-12-03 13:11       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-03 22:36         ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-04 10:53           ` Robin Murphy
2025-12-04 22:07             ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-12  4:02               ` Tian, Kevin
2025-12-12 19:51                 ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 3/8] iommufd: Add a mock page table format for noiommu mode Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 4/8] iommu: Add a dummy driver " Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 5/8] vfio: IOMMUFD relax requirement " Jacob Pan
2025-12-12  4:05   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-12-12 19:53     ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 6/8] vfio: Rename and remove compat from noiommu set function Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 7/8] iommu: Enable cdev noiommu mode under iommufd Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 8/8] iommufd: Add an ioctl IOMMU_IOAS_GET_PA to query PA from IOVA Jacob Pan
2026-01-30 19:35 ` [RFC 0/8] iommufd: Enable noiommu mode for cdev Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-06 22:50   ` Jacob Pan

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