From: Joonwon Kang <joonwonkang@google.com>
To: jassisinghbrar@gmail.com
Cc: jonathanh@nvidia.com, joonwonkang@google.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sudeep.holla@arm.com,
thierry.reding@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mailbox: Allow NULL message sending
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2025 06:51:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251208065117.1664403-1-joonwonkang@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABb+yY18OEvfc8DDUiZqVeQtkmwcOFCSTMT7KoXb1LVA3RuxdA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Dec 3, 2025 at 11:57 PM Joonwon Kang <joonwonkang@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 11:00 PM Joonwon Kang <joonwonkang@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Clients may want to send interrupt only without any useful message
> > > > involved. Since the current mailbox framework does not allow NULL
> > > > message sending(although it allows receiving it), the clients should
> > > > allocate a dummy message buffer and pretend sending it. Besides, if
> > > > the mailbox controller calls `mbox_chan_txdone()` when the client
> > > > drivers happen to send NULL message anyway, it will result in unexpected
> > > > results by making the tx status messed up. This commit lifts the
> > > > limitation and allows the clients to send interrupt only without any
> > > > message buffer allocated.
> > > >
> > > Interrupts without data messages are called 'doorbells' and we already
> > > support them.
> > > thanks
> >
> > I am not sure if it is already supported. Let me draw two cases which imply
> > that it is not supported. If the cases make sense, could you reconsider the
> > patch? If it is supported in another branch, could you refer me to that
> > branch? I am currently referring to the `for-next` branch of your mailbox
> > repo.
> >
> I believe you are talking about some hypothetical situation?
> Otherwise, which controller is that?
> A controller driver is supposed to either expect data or not, but not both.
I did not notice this controller's expectation since I could not find this info
in the API doc. So, now I believe that Case 2 could be seen as a hypothetical
situation. However, what about Case 1? If the message to send is NULL,
`chan->cl->tx_done(chan->cl, mssg, r)` and `complete(&chan->tx_complete)` will
**never** be called from `tx_tick()`. It also means that there is no way for a
client to know that the sending is really done or not. Even though a controller
driver(I mean any typical controller, not a specific controller) calls
`mbox_chan_txdone()` after receiving the corresponding ACK interrupt from the
remote to the previously sent NULL message, the client will be blocking not
knowing the sending is done.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-08 6:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-26 4:59 [PATCH] mailbox: Allow NULL message sending Joonwon Kang
2025-12-04 2:08 ` Jassi Brar
2025-12-04 5:57 ` Joonwon Kang
2025-12-07 21:56 ` Jassi Brar
2025-12-08 6:51 ` Joonwon Kang [this message]
2025-12-18 8:11 ` Lee Jones
2025-12-20 23:38 ` Jassi Brar
2025-12-22 10:56 ` Joonwon Kang
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