From: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
"skhawaja@google.com" <skhawaja@google.com>,
"pasha.tatashin@soleen.com" <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Zhang Yu <zhangyu1@linux.microsoft.com>,
Jean Philippe-Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
"Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/8] iommu: Add a helper to check if any iommu device is registered
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2025 11:51:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251212115115.00003a38@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5276DAAEF28EEE1CF3B9DD9B8CAEA@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Hi Kevin,
On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 04:02:38 +0000
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:
> > From: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 5, 2025 6:07 AM
> >
> > Hi Robin,
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 10:53:36 +0000
> > Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2025-12-03 10:36 pm, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > > > Hi Jason,
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 09:11:29 -0400
> > > > Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Tue, Dec 02, 2025 at 04:06:35PM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > > >>> However, as you pointed out there seems to be no standard
> > > >>> ordering for iommu device registration across platforms. e.g.
> > > >>> VT-d hooks up with x86_init, smmuv3 does that in platform
> > > >>> driver probe. This patchset puts dummy driver under
> > > >>> early_initcall which is after both but not a guarantee for
> > > >>> all platforms. Any suggestions?
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we need to do something more like the sefltest does and
> > > >> manually bind a driver to a device so this init time ordering
> > > >> shouldn't matter.
> > > > I have moved this dummy iommu driver init under iommufd_init(),
> > > > which aligns well since it runs after all physical IOMMU drivers
> > > > have registered. This dummy driver is intended for iommufd after
> > > > all. But I don't see a need to bind to a platform device as the
> > > > selttest does.
> > >
> > > There is no "after all physical IOMMU drivers have registered",
> > > there is only "after we've given up waiting to see if one might
> > > be loaded as a module", but even that may be indefinite depending
> > > on build/runtime configuration.
> > OK, how about we make loading the dummy driver an explicit user
> > opt-in, the same way as
> > /sys/module/iommufd/parameters/allow_unsafe_interrupt?
>
> enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode plus cdev already implies that need?
yes, i guess you meant hook up with the existing vfio knob
/sys/module/vfio/parameters/enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode
>
> >
> > In addition, make sure once noiommu driver is loaded, no other iommu
> > device can be registered.
> >
>
> this is probably the simplest way, e.g. converting below into a helper
> to add that check:
>
> spin_lock(&iommu_device_lock);
> list_add_tail(&iommu->list, &iommu_device_list);
> spin_unlock(&iommu_device_lock);
>
> called by all iommu_device_register() variants.
>
> btw then you may need a new iommu_device_register_noiommu()
> as iommufd selftest has no such exclusiveness requirement.
>
Yes, looks cleaner this way. iommu_device_register_noiommu() would just
fail if any other iommu devices have registered. There is no need for a
separate helper or check.
> or have a per-bus-type record to ensure each type can be only
> probed by a single driver?
That seems to be a broader change. I think it would work too. Let me
give that a try.
AFAIK, noiommu mode is only tied to PCI (due to vfio). I assume things
will stay this way.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-12 19:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-01 17:30 [RFC 0/8] iommufd: Enable noiommu mode for cdev Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 1/8] iommu: Make iommu_device_register_bus available beyond selftest Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 2/8] iommu: Add a helper to check if any iommu device is registered Jacob Pan
2025-12-02 2:17 ` Baolu Lu
2025-12-03 0:06 ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-03 3:31 ` Baolu Lu
2025-12-03 22:28 ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-03 13:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-03 22:36 ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-04 10:53 ` Robin Murphy
2025-12-04 22:07 ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-12 4:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-12-12 19:51 ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 3/8] iommufd: Add a mock page table format for noiommu mode Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 4/8] iommu: Add a dummy driver " Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 5/8] vfio: IOMMUFD relax requirement " Jacob Pan
2025-12-12 4:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-12-12 19:53 ` Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 6/8] vfio: Rename and remove compat from noiommu set function Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 7/8] iommu: Enable cdev noiommu mode under iommufd Jacob Pan
2025-12-01 17:30 ` [RFC 8/8] iommufd: Add an ioctl IOMMU_IOAS_GET_PA to query PA from IOVA Jacob Pan
2026-01-30 19:35 ` [RFC 0/8] iommufd: Enable noiommu mode for cdev Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-06 22:50 ` Jacob Pan
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