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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Petr Tesarik" <ptesarik@suse.com>,
	"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] bits: introduce ffs_val()
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 23:54:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260109235430.69ccfff2@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c63b2d4a-985c-442b-a171-e08059bdca3a@app.fastmail.com>

On Fri, 09 Jan 2026 18:01:02 +0100
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 9, 2026, at 17:37, Petr Tesarik wrote:
> 
> > + * Returns:
> > + * least significant non-zero bit, 0 if all bits are zero
> > + */
> > +#define ffs_val(x)			\
> > +({					\
> > +	const typeof(x) val__ = (x);	\
> > +	val__ & -val__;			\
> > +})  
> 
> This looks good to me, but I'd suggest using 'const auto val__'
> instead of typeof(), to reduce expanding complex arguments twice.

It is more usual to just use a single _ prefix and the same name.
I wouldn't bother with 'const' either, maybe:
#define ffs_val(val) ({  \
	auto _val = val; \
	_val & -_val;    \
})

However it isn't necessarily better than using __ffs().
FIELD_PREP(mask, val) (for non-constant mask) can be (mask & -mask) * val
or val << __ffs(mask).
So the 'ffs' version is fewer instructions (assuming non-zero mask).
The timings for bsf/bsr are similar to those for imul on intel cpu,
mul wins on zen3 and bsf/bsr on zen4.
On balance the __ffs() version is actually likely to be faster.

Other architectures may fair better or worse.
Clearly you don't want to use __ffs() unless it is a single instruction.

Of course, for FIELD_GET(reg, mask) you'd need reg/(mask & -mask)
and the cost of the integer division is far more than __ffs().
(But that will give you a compile-time error if mask is a constant zero
and the compiler will convert the divide to a shift.)

And for 64bit calculations on 32bit 'all bets are off'.
Even the shift left might be problematic.

	David

> 
>     Arnd
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-09 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-09 16:41 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Helper to isolate least-significant bit Petr Tesarik
2026-01-09 16:37 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] bits: introduce ffs_val() Petr Tesarik
2026-01-09 17:01   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-01-09 23:54     ` David Laight [this message]
2026-01-09 17:16   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-09 17:46     ` Petr Tesarik
2026-01-09 18:26       ` Yury Norov
2026-01-09 19:27         ` Petr Tesarik
2026-01-09 19:44           ` Yury Norov
2026-01-09 18:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-01-10 10:50   ` David Laight
2026-01-12  8:15   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2026-01-12  8:58     ` Petr Tesarik
2026-01-12 11:22     ` David Laight
2026-01-13  1:40       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-01-09 16:37 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] treewide, bits: use ffs_val() where it is open-coded Petr Tesarik
2026-01-09 18:19   ` Yury Norov
2026-01-09 19:32     ` Petr Tesarik
2026-01-09 20:19       ` Yury Norov
2026-01-10 10:36     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-01-10 11:54       ` David Laight
2026-01-11  3:15         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-01-11 10:40           ` David Laight
2026-01-11 21:22             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-01-11 23:57               ` David Laight
2026-01-12 11:21                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-01-12 13:23                   ` David Laight
2026-01-10 16:42       ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2026-01-10 22:23         ` David Laight
2026-01-11 14:41           ` Kuan-Wei Chiu
2026-01-11 21:22             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2026-01-09 17:20 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Helper to isolate least-significant bit Kuan-Wei Chiu
2026-01-09 18:59   ` Petr Tesarik
2026-01-09 19:26 ` Andrew Cooper

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