From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
oe-kbuild-all@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Maciej Żenczykowski" <maze@google.com>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: include/net/sock.h:2100:16: sparse: sparse: cast to non-scalar
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 21:16:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260112211625.GL3634291@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260112192126.GJ3634291@ZenIV>
On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 07:21:26PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 01:37:22PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > > #define unqual_non_array(T) __typeof__(((T(*)(void))0)())
> > >
> > > would do the right thing without that _Generic cascade and it'll work
> > > just fine for e.g. kuid_t. Using it for an array would trigger an error,
> > > array-returning functions being forbidden...
> > >
> > > Guys, do you have any problems with replacing __unqual_scalar_typeof()
> > > uses with that thing?
> >
> > There is also __typeof_unqual__, but I do not know if that is now
> > supported by all compilers, if so that is the better option. If not,
> > your function return type thing is awesome.
>
> >From experimenting with godbolt.org:
> clang gcc icc
> __typeof_unqual__ >= 19.0.1 >= 14.1 no
> this trick >= 3.0.0 >= 8.4 >= 13.0.1
> our minima 15.0.0 8.1
>
> So __typeof_unqual__ is well out of our range; this trick is slightly
> out of range, but nowhere near as bad. Prior to 8.4 gcc had a bug
> in that area, unfortunately ;-/
>
> Might make sense to reconsider it next time we bump gcc minimum...
Speaking of fun gcc bugs: prior to 11.1 gcc would not strip qualifiers
in conditional operator; I hadn't tried to RTFS, but it almost looks like
they took the union of qualifiers on the second and the third arguments
of ?:
That's a direct violation of standard, all way back to C90 - the type
of 0 ? x : x where x is an l-value of qualified type *is* explicitly
required to be the unqualified version of that type; C90#6.2.2.1 does
list the contexts where l-value is not converted to non-l-value and ?:
arguments are not among those, with clearly stated requirement to strip
qualifiers when converting to non-l-value.
Once upon a time gcc used to have a weird extension that made (a ? b : c)
an l-value if both b and c had been, which might explain the origin of
that bug, but that went further - even in cases like
const int x;
__typeof__(0 ? x : 1) y;
they ended with const leaking to y, which would be a bug even in C++,
where that extension for ?: originated (prvalue int as the third argument
ends up with lvalue-to-rvalue conversions applied to the second one,
stripping any qualifiers from it)...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-12 21:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-10 21:06 include/net/sock.h:2100:16: sparse: sparse: cast to non-scalar kernel test robot
2026-01-10 22:15 ` Al Viro
2026-01-10 22:35 ` Al Viro
2026-01-11 10:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2026-01-12 12:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-11 18:20 ` Al Viro
2026-01-11 18:51 ` Al Viro
2026-01-12 12:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 15:02 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-12 19:21 ` Al Viro
2026-01-12 21:16 ` Al Viro [this message]
2026-01-12 22:39 ` David Laight
2026-01-13 0:28 ` Al Viro
2026-01-12 12:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 19:30 ` Al Viro
2026-01-13 15:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-01-12 0:49 ` Philip Li
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