From: Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Ayush Singh <ayush@beagleboard.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
devicetree-compiler@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org,
Hui Pu <hui.pu@gehealthcare.com>,
Ian Ray <ian.ray@gehealthcare.com>,
Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/77] Add support for FDT_REF_LOCAL dtb tag
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2026 11:17:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260116111705.69bc914c@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260116111616.3a6c9ffc@bootlin.com>
On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 11:16:16 +0100
Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com> wrote:
> Hi Rob, David,
>
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 09:54:22 -0600
> Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 6:51 PM David Gibson
> > <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 01:22:08PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2026 at 8:20 AM Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > FDT_REF_LOCAL dtb tag is a meta-data tag attached to a property.
> > > > >
> > > > > It indicates that the property defined before this tag (FDT_PROP) uses a
> > > > > phandle value and the node related to this phandle value is local (i.e.
> > > > > the node is present in the device-tree blob).
> > > > >
> > > > > It is followed by one value:
> > > > > - offset (32bit):
> > > > > Offset in the property data where the phandle is available.
> > > > >
> > > > > Example:
> > > > > FDT_PROP 0x00000008 xxxxxxxx 0xca 0xfe 0xde 0xca 0x01 0x02 0x03 0x04
> > > > > FDT_REF_LOCAL 0x00000004
> > > > >
> > > > > This means that at the offset 4 of the property data, the value
> > > > > (0x01020304) is a phandle and the related node is available in the
> > > > > dtb.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is what is encoded in the dtb when the related dts has a property
> > > > > with the value set to <0xcafedeca &foo> with 'foo' a reference to an
> > > > > existing node where the phandle value is 0x01020304.
> > > > >
> > > > > If several local phandles are used in the property data, several
> > > > > FDT_REF_LOCAL are present after the FDT_PROP tag. Each of them points
> > > > > with its offset value to the position of one phandle.
> > > > >
> > > > > For instance, if a first property with 8 bytes of data has a phandle
> > > > > value at offset 4 and a second property with 16 bytes of data has
> > > > > phandle values at offset 0 and 8, the following tags sequence is
> > > > > present:
> > > > > FDT_PROP 0x00000008 xxxxxxxx <data bytes>
> > > > > FDT_REF_LOCAL 0x00000004
> > > > > FDT_PROP 0x00000010 xxxxxxxx <data bytes>
> > > > > FDT_REF_LOCAL 0x00000000
> > > > > FDT_REF_LOCAL 0x00000008
> > > >
> > > > To follow up on my desire to both be easily extended and have more
> > > > type info, I have something like this in mind:
> > > >
> > > > FDT_TYPE_INFO 0x10 FDT_REF_LOCAL 0x0 FDT_TYPE_U32 0x4 FDT_REF_LOCAL
> > > > 0x8 FDT_TYPE_U32 0xc
> > >
> > > I think general type info should be out of scope for this:
> > > * This series is already enormous and complicated without that
> >
> > It is enormous, but I don't think the intention was to finalize and
> > merge it all at once. I certainly don't intend to review it all now.
> > The final result looks sane to me and with that we have a good idea
> > what information needs to go in the DTB. I think the first step is to
> > define the new metadata tags and what DTB format changes are needed.
>
> Indeed, the goal of this RFC is to give the big picture and open
> discussions.
>
> FDT_TYPE_INFO tag is a container. It just groups other tags together.
>
> I don't use the term TYPE in the proposal related to generic tag values [1].
> I use FDT_INFO_PROPERTY which is more generic.
>
> Best regards,
> Hervé
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260114171822.2a44d2a5@bootlin.com/
--
Hervé Codina, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
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Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-12 14:18 [RFC PATCH 00/77] Add support for dtb metadata and addon device-trees Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 01/77] checks: Use consistent type for strspn() returned value Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:55 ` Ayush Singh
2026-01-13 3:08 ` David Gibson
2026-01-13 4:42 ` David Gibson
2026-01-13 8:02 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 02/77] Introduce v18 dtb version Herve Codina
2026-01-15 0:12 ` David Gibson
2026-01-16 9:09 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-19 5:13 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 9:48 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-28 1:49 ` David Gibson
2026-01-20 20:38 ` Rob Herring
2026-01-29 1:40 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 03/77] libfdt: Introduce fdt_next_tag_full() and use it in fdt_next_tag() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 0:17 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 04/77] dtc: Allow to use data_append_markers() out of data.c Herve Codina
2026-01-15 0:18 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 05/77] fdtdump: Change FDT_PROP prob handling to ease future addition Herve Codina
2026-01-12 15:41 ` Ayush Singh
2026-01-15 0:28 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 06/77] Add support for FDT_REF_LOCAL dtb tag Herve Codina
2026-01-13 19:22 ` Rob Herring
2026-01-15 0:34 ` David Gibson
2026-01-15 15:54 ` Rob Herring
2026-01-16 10:16 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-16 10:17 ` Herve Codina [this message]
2026-01-19 6:16 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 07/77] livetree: Improve get_node_by_phandle() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 0:41 ` David Gibson
2026-01-16 10:52 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-19 5:18 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 08/77] dtc: Introduce update_phandles_ref() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 0:46 ` David Gibson
2026-01-16 11:26 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-19 5:21 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH 09/77] dtc: Introduce mark_local_phandles() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 0:48 ` David Gibson
2026-01-16 13:09 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-19 5:46 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 12:14 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 10/77] tests: Add basic metadata tests Herve Codina
2026-01-15 0:50 ` David Gibson
2026-01-16 13:36 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-19 5:32 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 11/77] Add support for FDT_REF_PHANDLE dtb tag Herve Codina
2026-01-15 1:24 ` David Gibson
2026-01-16 15:17 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-19 5:40 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 13:19 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 12/77] tests: metadata: Add external phandle reference tests Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 13/77] Introduce dt_flags field in dtb header Herve Codina
2026-01-15 1:29 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 14/77] tests: metadata: Add a first test related to the dt_flags header field Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 15/77] Add support for /addon/ keyword Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 16/77] tests: metadata: Add a test related to addon dt_flags header value Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 17/77] tests: metadata: Add a basic addon test Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 18/77] dtc-parser.y: Avoid an empty proplist Herve Codina
2026-01-15 1:34 ` David Gibson
2026-01-16 16:22 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 19/77] dtc: Introduce export symbols Herve Codina
2026-01-15 5:52 ` David Gibson
2026-01-16 16:27 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-19 5:51 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 13:51 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-21 2:35 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 20/77] dtc: Add support for /export/ dts keyword parsing Herve Codina
2026-01-15 5:57 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 21/77] checks: Handle export symbols in fixup_phandle_references() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 22/77] dtc: Add export symbols (/export/ keyword) in generated dts file Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 23/77] dtc: Introduce mark_local_exports() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:01 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 24/77] dtc: Introduce update_exports_ref() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 25/77] Add support for FDT_EXPORT_SYM dtb tag Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:23 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 26/77] tests: metadata: Add export symbols with local references tests Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 27/77] dtc: Add support for export symbols sorting Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 28/77] tests: metadata: Add a test " Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 29/77] Add support for FDT_EXPORT_SYM_REF dtb tag Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:25 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 15:46 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-29 1:36 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 30/77] tests: metadata: Add export symbols with external references tests Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 31/77] dtc: Introduce import symbols Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 32/77] dtc-parser: Introduce last_header_flags Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:31 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 14:11 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-21 2:37 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 33/77] dtc: Add support for /import/ dts keyword parsing Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 34/77] dtc: Add import symbols (/import/ keyword) in generated dts file Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 35/77] Add support for FDT_IMPORT_SYM dtb tag Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:41 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 14:36 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-28 2:25 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 36/77] tests: metadata: Add import symbols tests Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 37/77] dtc: Add support for import symbols sorting Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 38/77] tests: metadata: Improve sort test to check " Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 39/77] check: Get 'chosen' node using get_subnode() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 40/77] dtc: Introduce dti_get_node_by_path() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:47 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 15:52 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-29 1:38 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 41/77] dtc: Introduce dti_get_node_by_label() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 42/77] dtc: Introduce dti_get_node_by_phandle() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 43/77] dtc: Introduce dti_get_node_by_ref() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 44/77] dtc: Introduce dti_get_node_phandle() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 45/77] dtc: Introduce dti_get_property_by_label() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 46/77] dtc: Introduce dti_get_marker_label() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:51 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 16:02 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-21 9:02 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 47/77] dtc: Introduce dti_fill_fullpaths() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 48/77] dtc: Introduce orphan nodes Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 49/77] dtc: Handle orphan nodes in dti_get_xxx_by_yyy() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:55 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 50/77] dtc: Handle orphan nodes in mark_local_xxx() and update_xxx_ref() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 51/77] dtc: Avoid NULL fullpath for nodes in orphan trees Herve Codina
2026-01-15 6:56 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 16:11 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 52/77] checks: Perform checks for orphan nodes Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 53/77] dtc: Rename add_orphan_node() to plugin_add_orphan_node() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 54/77] dtc: Add basic support for addon orphan nodes dts parsing Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 55/77] dtc: Add orphan nodes in generated dts file Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 56/77] Add support for FDT_BEGIN_NODE_REF_SYM dtb tag Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 57/77] tests: metadata: Add basic test for addon orphan nodes Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 58/77] dtc: Add support for missing root node in addon device-tree Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 59/77] tests: metadata: Add a test for addon without root node Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 60/77] dtc: Allow parser_get_node_by_ref() to return an orphan node for merging purpose Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 61/77] tests: metadata: Add a test related to orphan node merging Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 62/77] dtc: Add support for orphan nodes sorting Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 63/77] tests: metadata: Improve sort test to check " Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 64/77] dtc: Add support for references by path involving orphan nodes Herve Codina
2026-01-15 7:01 ` David Gibson
2026-01-19 16:38 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-21 9:06 ` David Gibson
2026-01-21 16:30 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-29 2:00 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 65/77] tests: metadata: Add a test " Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 66/77] dtc: Add support for namespace labels references Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 67/77] tests: metadata: Add a test " Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 68/77] libfdt: Introduce fdt_getprop_by_offset_w() Herve Codina
2026-01-15 7:05 ` David Gibson
2026-01-12 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 69/77] libfdt: Introduce fdt_getprop_offset() Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH 70/77] libfdt: Add support for applying an addon on a base device-tree blob Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH 71/77] Add fdtaddon tool to apply an addon Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH 72/77] tests: Add a first basic test for fdtaddon Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH 73/77] tests: fdtaddon: Add a basic test for addons using an orphan nodes Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH 74/77] tests: fdtaddon: Add a basic test for addons with unresolved phandle references Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH 75/77] tests: fdtaddon: Add a test for addons using namespace label references Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH 76/77] tests: fdtaddon: Add a test for using 'stacked' addons Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH 77/77] tests: fdtaddon: Add a test using more realistic dts and dtsa Herve Codina
2026-01-12 14:49 ` [RFC PATCH 00/77] Add support for dtb metadata and addon device-trees Ayush Singh
2026-01-13 18:44 ` Rob Herring
2026-01-14 16:18 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-19 6:00 ` David Gibson
2026-01-27 15:19 ` Herve Codina
2026-01-27 22:06 ` Rob Herring
2026-01-29 5:08 ` David Gibson
2026-01-15 0:08 ` David Gibson
2026-01-15 7:11 ` David Gibson
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