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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, joro@8bytes.org,
	jpb@kernel.org, praan@google.com, miko.lenczewski@arm.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add alloc_id/free_id functions to arm_smmu_invs
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2026 13:11:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260116171158.GQ961588@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWpuGsnyZJWTmgrf@Asurada-Nvidia>

On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 08:58:02AM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 10:41:20AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 09:13:00PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 02, 2026 at 11:57:15AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2025 at 10:52:53AM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jason,
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 01:05:51PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > > > +static int arm_smmu_get_tag(struct arm_smmu_domain *smmu_domain,
> > > > > > +			    struct arm_smmu_master *master,
> > > > > > +			    struct arm_vsmmu *vsmmu,
> > > > > > +			    struct arm_smmu_iotlb_tag *tag, bool no_alloc)
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > +	case ARM_SMMU_DOMAIN_S2:
> > > > > > +		if (smmu_domain->nest_parent) {
> > > > > > +			/* FIXME we can support attaching a nest_parent without
> > > > > > +			 * a vsmmu, but to do that we need to fix
> > > > > > +			 * arm_smmu_get_id_from_invs() to never return the vmid
> > > > > > +			 * of a vsmmu. Probably by making a
> > > > > > +			 * INV_TYPE_S2_VMID_VSMMU */
> > > > > > +			id = vsmmu->vmid;
> > > > > > +			return 0;
> > > > > > +		}
> > > > > 
> > > > > Would you mind elaborating why arm_smmu_get_id_from_invs() can't
> > > > > return vsmmu->vmid to share with a naked S2 STE?
> > > > 
> > > > A "naked" S2 domain doesn't have a pointer to the vsmmu, so it is
> > > > impossible to get vsmmu->vmid.
> > > 
> > > An S2 parent domain should be per VM. And a vSMMU on top of an S2
> > > should be per SMMU. So, it could have stored a list of vSMMUs and
> > > device attaching to a naked S2 could match its master->smmu with
> > > vSMMU->smmu in the list?
> > 
> > That would cause lifecycle problems if the vSMMU is destroyed
> > while the nake S2 is still attached and trying to use the vSMMU's
> > VMID.
> 
> Well, if vSMMU code does the same get-build-merge in vsmmu_init()
> and build-unref in vsmmu_destroy(), VMID is basically managed by
> the invalidation array. Yes, a naked S2 attachment would still use
> the shared VMID, but I think that's fine for a nesting parent?

The VMID has to be managed by the vsmmu itself, it would be a big
confusing mess any other way. There are multiple invalidation lists,
so you can't rely on that to refcount things.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-16 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-18 20:26 [PATCH v1 0/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Share domain across SMMU/vSMMU instances Nicolin Chen
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Pass in ssid to arm_smmu_make_s1_cd() Nicolin Chen
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add alloc_id/free_id functions to arm_smmu_invs Nicolin Chen
2025-12-19 17:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-19 20:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-02 15:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-30 18:52     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-12-31 19:48       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-02 15:57       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-16  5:13         ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-16 14:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-16 16:58             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-16 17:11               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-16 18:27                 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-17  1:11                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Store ASIDs and VMID in arm_smmu_master Nicolin Chen
2025-12-19 15:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-19 19:17     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Use alloc_id/free_id ops in arm_smmu_invs_merge/unref Nicolin Chen
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Install to CD/STE the ASID/VMID stored in the master Nicolin Chen
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Use dummy ASID/VMID in arm_smmu_master_build_invs() Nicolin Chen
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Remove free_fn argument from arm_smmu_invs_unref() Nicolin Chen
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Remove ASID/VMID from arm_smmu_domain Nicolin Chen
2025-12-18 20:26 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Allow sharing domain across SMMUs Nicolin Chen

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