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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	Tao Wang <tao03.wang@horizon.auto>,
	alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, horms@kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] net: stmmac: fix transmit queue timed out after resume
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2026 09:06:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260117090634.26148eb4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWqmIRFsHkQKkXF-@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Fri, 16 Jan 2026 20:57:05 +0000 Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> Thoughts - should the kernel default to having flow control enabled
> or disabled in light of this? Should this feature require explicit
> administrative configuration given the severity of network disruption?

FWIW in DC historically we have seen a few NICs which have tiny buffers
so back-pressuring up to the top of rack switch is helpful. Switches
have more reasonable buffers. That's just NIC Tx pause, switch Rx pause
(from downlink ports, not fabric!). Letting switches generate pause is 
a recipe for.. not having a network. We'd need to figure out why Netgear
does what it does in your case, IMHO.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-17 17:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-09  7:02 [PATCH net Resend] net: stmmac: fix transmit queue timed out after resume Tao Wang
2026-01-13  4:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-14 11:00   ` [PATCH net v2] " Tao Wang
2026-01-14 11:26     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-15  7:08       ` Tao Wang
2026-01-15 12:09         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-15 19:40           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-15 21:04             ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-15 21:35               ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-16  0:50                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-16 13:37                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-16 18:08                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-16 18:27                       ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-01-16 19:22                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-16 20:57                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-17 17:06                             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-01-17 20:50                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2026-01-16  7:29           ` Tao Wang
2026-01-15  3:16     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-01-15  7:19       ` Tao Wang

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