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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, brauner@kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu,
	willy@infradead.org, jack@suse.cz, djwong@kernel.org,
	josef@toxicpanda.com, sandeen@sandeen.net, rgoldwyn@suse.com,
	xiang@kernel.org, dsterba@suse.com, pali@kernel.org,
	ebiggers@kernel.org, neil@brown.name, amir73il@gmail.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, cheol.lee@lge.com, jay.sim@lge.com,
	gunho.lee@lge.com, Hyunchul Lee <hyc.lee@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 06/14] ntfs: update file operations
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 08:10:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260119071038.GC1480@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKYAXd_RoJi5HqQV2NPvmkOTrx9AbSbuCmi=BKieENcLVW0FZg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jan 18, 2026 at 01:56:55PM +0900, Namjae Jeon wrote:
> > Talking about helpers, why does iomap_seek_hole/iomap_seek_data
> > not work for ntfs?
>
> Regarding iomap_seek_hole/iomap_seek_data, the default iomap
> implementation treats IOMAP_UNWRITTEN extents as holes unless they
> have dirty pages in the page cache. However, in ntfs iomap begin, the
> region between initialized_size and i_size (EOF) is mapped as
> IOMAP_UNWRITTEN. Since NTFS requires any pre-allocated regions before
> initialized_size to be physically zeroed, NTFS must treat all
> pre-allocated regions as DATA.

What do you need IOMAP_UNWRITTEN for in that case?  If the blocks have
been zeroed on-disk, they are IOMAP_MAPPED by the usual iomap standards.
If you need special treatement, it might be worth adding a separate
IOMAP_PREZEROED with clearly defined semantics instead of overloading
IOMAP_UNWRITTEN.

> 
> >
> > > +             file_accessed(iocb->ki_filp);
> > > +             ret = iomap_dio_rw(iocb, to, &ntfs_read_iomap_ops, NULL, IOMAP_DIO_PARTIAL,
> >
> > Why do you need IOMAP_DIO_PARTIAL?  That's mostly a workaround
> > for "interesting" locking in btrfs and gfs2.  If ntfs has similar
> > issues, it would be helpful to add a comment here.  Also maybe fix
> > the overly long line.
> Regarding the use of IOMAP_DIO_PARTIAL, I was not aware that it was a
> workaround for specific locking issues in some filesystems. I
> incorrectly assumed it was a flag to enable partial success when a DIO
> request exceeds the actual data length. I will remove this flags and
> fix it.

It only does short I/O for -EFAULT, which only happens if the nofault
flag on the iov_iter is set.  See the big comment in
btrfs_direct_write where that field is set about the explanation.

> > What is the reason to do the expansion here instead of in the iomap_begin
> > handler when we know we are committed to write to range?
> We can probably move it to iomap_begin(). Let me check it.

If it works better here that's also fine, just document it as it looks
a bit unusual.  Handling the cleanup on failures might be a bit easier
if it is done in the iomap loop, though.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-19  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-11 14:03 [PATCH v5 00/14] ntfs filesystem remake Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] Revert "fs: Remove NTFS classic" Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  8:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] ntfs: update in-memory, on-disk structures and headers Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  8:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  4:54     ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-19  7:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20  4:27         ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-20  6:40           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20  7:03             ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] ntfs: update super block operations Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] ntfs: update inode operations Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  8:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  4:54     ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] ntfs: update directory operations Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] ntfs: update file operations Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  8:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  4:56     ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-19  7:10       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-01-20  5:11         ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-20  6:42           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20  7:02             ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] ntfs: update iomap and address space operations Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  9:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  5:00     ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-19  7:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20  4:28         ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] ntfs: update attrib operations Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  9:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  5:00     ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] ntfs: update runlist handling and cluster allocator Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  9:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  5:00     ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] ntfs: add reparse and ea operations Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] ntfs: update misc operations Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  9:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  5:00     ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] ntfs3: remove legacy ntfs driver support Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  9:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] ntfs: add Kconfig and Makefile Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  9:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  5:08     ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-19  7:19       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20  4:27         ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-11 14:03 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] MAINTAINERS: update ntfs filesystem entry Namjae Jeon
2026-01-16  9:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-16  9:33 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] ntfs filesystem remake Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-18  5:19   ` Namjae Jeon
2026-01-19  7:02     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-20  4:26       ` Namjae Jeon

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