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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	jean-philippe@linaro.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, joro@8bytes.org,
	balbirs@nvidia.com, miko.lenczewski@arm.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, kevin.tian@intel.com, praan@google.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_invs based arm_smmu_domain_inv_range()
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 12:09:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260126160940.GM1134360@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXeQC3GjUgafuOi-@willie-the-truck>

On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 04:02:19PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 11:20:19AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 01:01:16PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 04:03:27PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 05:10:52PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 05:05:31PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 12:11:28PM -0800, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > > > > > +	/*
> > > > > > > +	 * We are committed to updating the STE. Ensure the invalidation array
> > > > > > > +	 * is visible to concurrent map/unmap threads, and acquire any racing
> > > > > > > +	 * IOPTE updates.
> > > > > > > +	 *
> > > > > > > +	 *  [CPU0]                        | [CPU1]
> > > > > > > +	 *                                |
> > > > > > > +	 *  change IOPTEs and TLB flush:  |
> > > > > > > +	 *  arm_smmu_domain_inv_range() { | arm_smmu_install_old_domain_invs {
> > > > > > > +	 *    ...                         |   rcu_assign_pointer(new_invs);
> > > > > > > +	 *    smp_mb(); // ensure IOPTEs  |   smp_mb(); // ensure new_invs
> > > > > > > +	 *    ...                         |   kfree_rcu(old_invs, rcu);
> > > > > > > +	 *    // load invalidation array  | }
> > > > > > > +	 *    invs = rcu_dereference();   | arm_smmu_install_ste_for_dev {
> > > > > > > +	 *                                |   STE = TTB0 // read new IOPTEs
> > > > > > > +	 */
> > > > > > > +	smp_mb();

> If we do that, can we drop the smp_mb()s from
> arm_smmu_install_{old,new}_domain_invs()?

I suppose so, but domain attach isn't a performance path so it depends
on your preference for strict pairing of barriers. Currently the two
smp_mbs() are paired. Can we reliably pair smp_mb() with dma_wmb()?
Are you happy with that clarity?

My view is attach isn't a performance path, so having extra barriers
is fine if it helps understandability.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-26 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-19 20:11 [PATCH v9 0/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce an RCU-protected invalidation array Nicolin Chen
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Explicitly set smmu_domain->stage for SVA Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23  9:49   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add an inline arm_smmu_domain_free() Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23  9:50   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce a per-domain arm_smmu_invs array Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23  9:53   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-23 17:03   ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:35     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 17:51       ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:56         ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 19:16           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-23 19:18             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-26 14:54             ` Will Deacon
2026-01-26 15:21               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Pre-allocate a per-master invalidation array Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23  9:54   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Populate smmu_domain->invs when attaching masters Nicolin Chen
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_invs based arm_smmu_domain_inv_range() Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23  9:48   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-01-23 13:56     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 16:38     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-27 17:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 18:07         ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-27 18:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 18:37             ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-27 19:19               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-27 20:14                 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-28  0:05                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-23 17:05   ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:10     ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:43       ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 20:03       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 13:01         ` Will Deacon
2026-01-26 15:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 16:02             ` Will Deacon
2026-01-26 16:09               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-26 18:56                 ` Will Deacon
2026-01-27  3:14                   ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-26 17:50             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-12-19 20:11 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Perform per-domain invalidations using arm_smmu_invs Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 17:07   ` Will Deacon
2026-01-23 17:47     ` Nicolin Chen
2026-01-23 19:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-19 17:10 ` [PATCH v9 0/7] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Introduce an RCU-protected invalidation array Nicolin Chen

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