From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
Cc: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@kernel.org>,
Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management"
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 11:05:38 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260128150538.GA1134360@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXneX-aZofvuk8gl@ninjato>
On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 11:01:03AM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
>
> > One exception is I2C where the logic is so broken we need to first
> > rework a lot of drivers.
>
> Let's say "bitrotten" instead of broken. People used what was available
> at that time and they prevented the kernel from crashing, at least. And
> up to now, nobody had the bandwidth to improve that part in I2C.
>
> > Wolfram is on board with that though.
>
> Ack. I want to emphasize here that for I2C the SRCU part goes into the
> subsystem, not into the drivers.
I would just gently advise again that SRCU is not a pancea and should
only be used if the read side sections are super performance
critical. I'm not sure that describes I2C. rwsem is often a simpler
and better choice.
> > > The reason cdev keeps coming up is because there are few common ways a
> > > typical driver can actually generate concurrent operations during and
> > > after remove that would be problematic.
>
> Let me point out again that Dan Williams already had a PoC-patch for
> handling the cdev issue generically [1]. Dunno if this fact is present
> in the current discussion.
>
> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/1/20/999
Yeah, this was brought up a couple drafts of possible options were
exchanged already but nothing was really focused on and polished.
It is a tricky problem to find a storage location for the lock and
revoke so that the fops shim can access it while not disturbing the
actual driver.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-28 15:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-24 17:05 [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] Revert "selftests: revocable: Add kselftest cases" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] Revert "revocable: Add Kunit test cases" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:37 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 13:20 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 15:57 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-24 18:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-24 19:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-25 12:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-01-25 13:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 14:07 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 1:09 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 13:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 17:53 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 0:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 16:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 17:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 22:36 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 23:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-26 13:50 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 21:18 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-27 23:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 9:40 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 10:01 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-01-28 15:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-28 15:20 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 16:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30 11:27 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 16:58 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-01-29 1:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 1:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 3:42 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-29 9:56 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 10:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-30 0:36 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-29 10:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 13:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 14:52 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 22:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 9:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 9:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-02-03 13:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-28 15:48 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-29 9:11 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 10:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 13:50 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 14:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 14:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 22:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 11:19 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 13:27 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-03 12:15 ` Johan Hovold
2026-02-03 12:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 12:30 ` [PATCH] driver core: disable revocable code from build Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 13:20 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-04 2:14 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-02-04 5:28 ` [PATCH] selftests: Disable " Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-02-04 8:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 13:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 15:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-04 14:36 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 15:57 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-28 14:23 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-28 23:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 15:01 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-30 9:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-30 17:41 ` Danilo Krummrich
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