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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>
Cc: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
	Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management"
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 11:05:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260128150538.GA1134360@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aXneX-aZofvuk8gl@ninjato>

On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 11:01:03AM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> 
> > One exception is I2C where the logic is so broken we need to first
> > rework a lot of drivers.
> 
> Let's say "bitrotten" instead of broken. People used what was available
> at that time and they prevented the kernel from crashing, at least. And
> up to now, nobody had the bandwidth to improve that part in I2C.
> 
> > Wolfram is on board with that though.
> 
> Ack. I want to emphasize here that for I2C the SRCU part goes into the
> subsystem, not into the drivers.

I would just gently advise again that SRCU is not a pancea and should
only be used if the read side sections are super performance
critical. I'm not sure that describes I2C. rwsem is often a simpler
and better choice.

> > > The reason cdev keeps coming up is because there are few common ways a
> > > typical driver can actually generate concurrent operations during and
> > > after remove that would be problematic.
> 
> Let me point out again that Dan Williams already had a PoC-patch for
> handling the cdev issue generically [1]. Dunno if this fact is present
> in the current discussion.
> 
> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/1/20/999

Yeah, this was brought up a couple drafts of possible options were
exchanged already but nothing was really focused on and polished.

It is a tricky problem to find a storage location for the lock and
revoke so that the fops shim can access it while not disturbing the
actual driver.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-28 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-24 17:05 [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] Revert "selftests: revocable: Add kselftest cases" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] Revert "revocable: Add Kunit test cases" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:37   ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:46   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 13:20     ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 15:57       ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-24 18:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-24 19:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-25 12:47   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-01-25 13:22     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 14:07       ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29  1:09         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 13:24     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 17:53     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26  0:07       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 16:08         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 17:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 22:36             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 23:40             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-26 13:50     ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 21:18       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-27 23:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28  9:40           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 10:01             ` Wolfram Sang
2026-01-28 15:05               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-01-28 15:20                 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 16:01                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30 11:27                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 16:58                 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-01-29  1:08           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29  1:23             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29  3:42               ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-29  9:56                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 10:43                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-30  0:36                   ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-29 10:38               ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 13:34                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 14:52                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 22:29             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30  9:10               ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03  9:10                 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-02-03 13:59                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-28 15:48         ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-29  9:11           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 10:56             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 13:50               ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 14:28                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 14:45                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 14:49                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 22:00                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 11:19                   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 13:27           ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-03 12:15       ` Johan Hovold
2026-02-03 12:26         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 12:30           ` [PATCH] driver core: disable revocable code from build Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 13:20             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-04  2:14             ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-02-04  5:28               ` [PATCH] selftests: Disable " Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-02-04  8:21                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 13:57           ` [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 15:44             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-04 14:36           ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 15:57 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-28 14:23   ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-28 23:28     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 15:01   ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-30  9:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-30 17:41       ` Danilo Krummrich

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