From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>
Cc: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@kernel.org>,
Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management"
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2026 16:49:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260129144906.GE3327197@killaraus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMRc=MfzByLPJ0FKySmG7b79Ah63Mtk1hs1N=6kv8pTDydrcGg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 08:50:30AM -0500, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2026 11:56:34 +0100, Laurent Pinchart said:
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 10:11:46AM +0100, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> >>
> >> For I2C both the problem is different (subsystem waiting forever for
> >> consumers to release all references) and the culprit: memory used to
> >> hold the reference-counted struct device is released the supplier
> >> unbind unconditionally. Unfortunately there's no way around it other
> >> than to first move it into a separate chunk managed by i2c core.
> >
> > Isn't there ? Can't the driver-specific data structure be
> > reference-counted instead of unconditionally freed at unbind time ?
>
> Oh, for sure, if we did from the start. But we did not and there are now
> hundreds of i2c drivers that do:
>
> struct my_i2c_drv_data {
> struct i2c_adapter adap;
> int my_other_drv_data;
> };
>
> and in probe:
>
> struct my_i2c_drv_data *data = devm_kzalloc(dev, sizeof(*data), GFP_KERNEL);
>
> (or just kzalloc() with kfree() in remove, it doesn't matter)
>
> and the ownership of that data belongs to the driver. There's no way we could
> address it now so the next best thing is to work towards moving the ownership
> of struct i2c_adapter to the i2c core and make it reference counted using the
> internal kobject of the associated struct device.
What I'm reading here is essentially that we rolled out devm_kzalloc()
too quickly without understanding the consequences, and it has spread so
much that it can't be fixed properly now, so we need to find a
workaround. And now we're trying to work around the problem by rolling
out a revocable API that has barely seen any testing, and is known to
have design issues. Does any one else see the irony ? :-)
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-29 14:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-24 17:05 [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] Revert "selftests: revocable: Add kselftest cases" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] Revert "revocable: Add Kunit test cases" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:37 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 13:20 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 15:57 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-24 18:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-24 19:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-25 12:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-01-25 13:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 14:07 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 1:09 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 13:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 17:53 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 0:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 16:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 17:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 22:36 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 23:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-26 13:50 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 21:18 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-27 23:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 9:40 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 10:01 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-01-28 15:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 15:20 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 16:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30 11:27 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 16:58 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-01-29 1:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 1:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 3:42 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-29 9:56 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 10:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-30 0:36 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-29 10:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 13:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 14:52 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 22:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 9:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 9:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-02-03 13:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-28 15:48 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-29 9:11 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 10:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 13:50 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 14:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 14:49 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2026-01-29 22:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 11:19 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 13:27 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-03 12:15 ` Johan Hovold
2026-02-03 12:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 12:30 ` [PATCH] driver core: disable revocable code from build Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 13:20 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-04 2:14 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-02-04 5:28 ` [PATCH] selftests: Disable " Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-02-04 8:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 13:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 15:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-04 14:36 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 15:57 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-28 14:23 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-28 23:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 15:01 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-30 9:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-30 17:41 ` Danilo Krummrich
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