From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Tzung-Bi Shih <tzungbi@kernel.org>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Linus Walleij <linusw@kernel.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com>,
Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management"
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2026 13:26:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026020315-twins-probe-d988@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aYHm9pr0e7myeqS3@hovoldconsulting.com>
On Tue, Feb 03, 2026 at 01:15:50PM +0100, Johan Hovold wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 02:50:05PM +0100, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 01:47:14PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>
> > > True, but we do need something. I took these patches without a real
> > > user as a base for us to start working off of. The rust implementation
> > > has shown that the design-pattern is a good solution for the problem,
> > > and so I feel we should work with it and try to get this working
> > > properly. We've been sitting and talking about it for years now, and
> > > here is the first real code submission that is getting us closer to fix
> > > the problem properly. It might not be perfict, but let's evolve it from
> > > here for what is found not to work correctly.
> >
> > It's a design pattern that's perhaps needed for rust, but not
> > necessarily elsewhere. But either way there is no need to rush this. If
> > it turns out to be usable, it can be merged along with a future user.
> >
> > Dropping the revocable_provider and revocable abstraction split should
> > even make it more palatable.
> >
> > And with a new interface and a non-trivial user we can see what the
> > end-result looks like and decide where to go from there.
> >
> > > So I don't want to take these reverts, let's try this out, by putting
> > > this into the driver core now, we have the base to experiment with in a
> > > "safe" way in lots of different driver subsytems at the same time. If
> > > it doesn't work out, worst case we revert it in a release or two because
> > > it didn't get used.
> >
> > Please reconsider. Perhaps I didn't stress the point enough that the
> > current API needs to be reworked completely since there's no longer any
> > need for the two revocable abstractions.
>
> I noticed that you picked up the proposed incremental fixes to the
> issues I reported without anyone even having reviewed them. The fixes
> being incremental makes it a lot harder to review, but based on a quick
> look it seems there needs to be further changes.
>
> And again, what is the rush? Anyone wanting to experiment with this
> functionality only needs to apply a single patch. And exposing the API
> before it is stable is just going to be a mess as subsystems may start
> using it from day one.
>
> So please, just drop it for 6.20. You can still merge this for the next
> cycle when the basic functionality has been fixed.
The fixes seemed correct on my review, what was wrong with them? And
having the code fixed for known issues is a good thing here, it gives
the gpio people a base to test their work on.
As no one is currently using this, I will disable this from the build,
but keeping the code in the tree right now is a good thing as I do feel
this is the right way forward, and others can work off of it easier this
way.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-03 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-24 17:05 [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] Revert "selftests: revocable: Add kselftest cases" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 2/3] Revert "revocable: Add Kunit test cases" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:05 ` [PATCH 3/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:37 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-24 17:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 13:20 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 15:57 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-24 18:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-24 19:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-25 12:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-01-25 13:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 14:07 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 1:09 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 13:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-25 17:53 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 0:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 16:08 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-26 17:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-26 22:36 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-28 23:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-26 13:50 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 21:18 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-27 23:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 9:40 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 10:01 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-01-28 15:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-28 15:20 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 16:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-30 11:27 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-28 16:58 ` Wolfram Sang
2026-01-29 1:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 1:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 3:42 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-29 9:56 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-29 10:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-30 0:36 ` dan.j.williams
2026-01-29 10:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 13:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 14:52 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 22:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 9:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 9:10 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-02-03 13:59 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-28 15:48 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-29 9:11 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 10:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 13:50 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-01-29 14:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 14:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 22:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-01-30 11:19 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-29 13:27 ` Linus Walleij
2026-02-03 12:15 ` Johan Hovold
2026-02-03 12:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2026-02-03 12:30 ` [PATCH] driver core: disable revocable code from build Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 13:20 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-04 2:14 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-02-04 5:28 ` [PATCH] selftests: Disable " Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-02-04 8:21 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-03 13:57 ` [PATCH 0/3] Revert "revocable: Revocable resource management" Laurent Pinchart
2026-02-03 15:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-04 14:36 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-27 15:57 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-28 14:23 ` Johan Hovold
2026-01-28 23:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-29 15:01 ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2026-01-30 9:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-01-30 17:41 ` Danilo Krummrich
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