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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>, Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, audit@vger.kernel.org,
	Richard Guy Briggs <rgb@redhat.com>,
	Ricardo Robaina <rrobaina@redhat.com>
Subject: setns(2) vs. pivot_root(2) (was Re: [PATCH v2] audit: Avoid excessive dput/dget in audit_context setup and reset paths)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2026 20:58:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260206205804.GC3183987@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260206202933.GA3183987@ZenIV>

On Fri, Feb 06, 2026 at 08:29:33PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:

> Look: the case where we might get passed current->fs down there is real.
> It can happen in one and only one situation - CLONE_NEWNS in unshare(2)
> arguments *and* current->fs->users being 1.
> 
> It wouldn't suffice, since there's chroot_fs_refs() that doesn't give
> a rat's arse for task->fs being ours - it goes and replaces every
> ->fs->pwd or ->fs->root that happens to point to old_root.
> 
> It's still not a real race, though - both chroot_fs_refs() and that area
> in copy_mnt_ns() are serialized on namespace_sem.
> 
> And yes, it's obscenely byzantine.  It gets even worse when you consider
> the fact that pivot_root(2) does not break only because the refcount
> drops in chroot_fs_refs() are guaranteed not to reach 0 - the caller is
> holding its own references to old_root.{mnt,dentry} and *thar* does not
> get dropped until we drop namespace_sem.
> 
> IOW, that shit is actually safe, but man, has its correctness grown fucking
> convoluted...
> 
> Grabbing fs->seq in copy_mnt_ns() wouldn't make the things better, though -
> it seriously relies upon the same exclusion with chroot_fs_refs() for
> correctness; unless you are willing to hold it over the entire walk through
> the mount tree, the proof of correctness doesn't get any simpler.

Speaking of the race that _is_ there: pidfd setns() vs. pivot_root().
pivot_root() (well, chroot_fs_refs()) goes over all threads and flips their
->fs->{root,pwd} for the ones that used to be at old_root.  The trouble is,
in case where we have setns() with more than just CLONE_NEWNS in flags, we
end up creating a temporary fs_struct, passing that to mntns_install() and
then copying its pwd and root back to the caller's if everything goes well.

That temporary is _not_ going to be found by chroot_fs_refs(), though, so
it misses the update by pivot_root().

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-06 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03 19:44 [PATCH v2] audit: Avoid excessive dput/dget in audit_context setup and reset paths Waiman Long
2026-02-03 19:59 ` Al Viro
2026-02-03 20:18   ` Waiman Long
2026-02-03 20:05 ` Al Viro
2026-02-03 20:32   ` Waiman Long
2026-02-03 21:50     ` Al Viro
2026-02-03 23:26       ` Al Viro
2026-02-04  4:21         ` Waiman Long
2026-02-04  6:26           ` Al Viro
2026-02-04 18:16             ` Waiman Long
2026-02-04 20:18               ` Al Viro
2026-02-05  3:03                 ` Waiman Long
2026-02-05  4:45                   ` Waiman Long
2026-02-05 23:53                     ` Al Viro
2026-02-06  1:20                       ` Waiman Long
2026-02-06  4:11                         ` Waiman Long
2026-02-06  4:19                           ` Waiman Long
2026-02-06  5:22                           ` Al Viro
2026-02-06  6:31                             ` Al Viro
2026-02-06  6:38                               ` Al Viro
2026-02-06  7:13                             ` Al Viro
2026-02-06 19:16                             ` Waiman Long
2026-02-06 20:04                               ` Waiman Long
2026-02-06 20:38                                 ` Al Viro
2026-02-07  8:25                                 ` [PATCH][RFC] bug in unshare(2) failure recovery Al Viro
2026-02-07 23:06                                   ` Waiman Long
2026-02-17 12:49                                   ` Christian Brauner
2026-02-17 12:49                                   ` Christian Brauner
2026-02-06 20:29                               ` [PATCH v2] audit: Avoid excessive dput/dget in audit_context setup and reset paths Al Viro
2026-02-06 20:58                                 ` Al Viro [this message]
2026-02-06 21:09                                   ` setns(2) vs. pivot_root(2) (was Re: [PATCH v2] audit: Avoid excessive dput/dget in audit_context setup and reset paths) Al Viro
2026-02-17 13:12                                     ` Christian Brauner
2026-02-06  8:15                       ` [PATCH v2] audit: Avoid excessive dput/dget in audit_context setup and reset paths Al Viro
2026-02-05  5:22                   ` Al Viro
2026-02-05 13:59                     ` Waiman Long
2026-02-05 17:53                     ` Mateusz Guzik
2026-02-17 13:33                       ` Christian Brauner
2026-02-17 13:44                         ` Mateusz Guzik

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