From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
"Philipp Stanner" <phasta@mailbox.org>,
phasta@kernel.org, "David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>, "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] rust: sync: Add dma_fence abstractions
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 13:28:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260210132837.26f7e7bc@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aYsZHhX2IVO2kOSm@google.com>
On Tue, 10 Feb 2026 11:40:14 +0000
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026 at 11:46:44AM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> > On 2/10/26 11:36, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > > On Tue Feb 10, 2026 at 11:15 AM CET, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > >> One way you can see this is by looking at what we require of the
> > >> workqueue. For all this to work, it's pretty important that we never
> > >> schedule anything on the workqueue that's not signalling safe, since
> > >> otherwise you could have a deadlock where the workqueue is executes some
> > >> random job calling kmalloc(GFP_KERNEL) and then blocks on our fence,
> > >> meaning that the VM_BIND job never gets scheduled since the workqueue
> > >> is never freed up. Deadlock.
> > >
> > > Yes, I also pointed this out multiple times in the past in the context of C GPU
> > > scheduler discussions. It really depends on the workqueue and how it is used.
> > >
> > > In the C GPU scheduler the driver can pass its own workqueue to the scheduler,
> > > which means that the driver has to ensure that at least one out of the
> > > wq->max_active works is free for the scheduler to make progress on the
> > > scheduler's run and free job work.
> > >
> > > Or in other words, there must be no more than wq->max_active - 1 works that
> > > execute code violating the DMA fence signalling rules.
>
> Ouch, is that really the best way to do that? Why not two workqueues?
Honestly, I'm wondering if we're not better off adding the concept of
DmaFenceSignalingWorkqueue on which only DmaFenceSignalingWorkItem can
be scheduled, for our own sanity.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-10 12:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-03 8:13 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add dma_fence abstractions and DRM Jobqueue Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] rust: list: Add unsafe for container_of Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 15:25 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-04 10:30 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] rust: sync: Add dma_fence abstractions Philipp Stanner
2026-02-05 8:57 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-06 10:23 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-09 8:19 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-09 14:58 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 8:16 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 8:38 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 9:06 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 9:54 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 9:15 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 10:15 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 10:36 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-10 10:46 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 11:40 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:28 ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2026-02-11 9:57 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 10:08 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 10:28 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 10:20 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:00 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 11:12 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 14:38 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:00 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:05 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-13 17:27 ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-10 10:46 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 11:34 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 11:45 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:21 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:34 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:36 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:15 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:26 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:49 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:56 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 14:00 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 14:06 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 15:32 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 15:50 ` Christian König
2026-02-10 15:07 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 15:45 ` Christian König
2026-02-11 8:16 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:03 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:09 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 14:22 ` Christian König
2026-02-17 14:28 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:44 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-13 23:20 ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-17 15:01 ` Christian König
2026-02-18 9:50 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-18 10:48 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 12:49 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 12:56 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:26 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:51 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 14:11 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 14:50 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 8:16 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 9:20 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 9:26 ` Christian König
2026-02-05 10:16 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-05 13:16 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-06 9:32 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 10:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-06 13:24 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 11:04 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-09 8:21 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 11:23 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-09 11:30 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] rust/drm: Add DRM Jobqueue Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 14:57 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 10:47 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 11:07 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:19 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 12:10 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:32 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 12:51 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:19 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 11:59 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:14 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 12:24 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:22 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 12:44 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 12:52 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 13:53 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 15:28 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 12:45 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 13:45 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-11 14:07 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 15:20 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 15:51 ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:53 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 15:54 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:33 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03 8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] samples: rust: Add jobqueue tester Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add dma_fence abstractions and DRM Jobqueue Daniel Almeida
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