From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
dan.j.williams@intel.com, Alistair Francis <alistair23@gmail.com>,
bhelgaas@google.com, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
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Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
aneesh.kumar@kernel.org, yilun.xu@linux.intel.com, aik@amd.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 00/27] lib: Rust implementation of SPDM
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2026 15:40:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026021944-material-hardhat-c508@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aZcbBt7OmNeH3oA0@wunner.de>
On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 03:15:34PM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 08:41:19AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > It has turned out to be super convenient to expose the 8 slots with
> > > certificate chains in sysfs for direct examination with openssl and
> > > similar tools, without having to go through netlink.
> >
> > Honestly, I'm reluctant to add permanent sysfs uAPI just for temporary
> > debugging. Put it in debugfs.
>
> Exposure of the certificates in the SPDM slots is not for debugging,
> it's just super convenient for day-to-day use.
>
> > Having to find/remember some baroque openssl command line with a
> > million options is not reasonable for a production kind of
> > environment.
>
> Personally I find something like the following neither baroque nor
> unreasonable:
>
> # What's the certificate chain in slot0?
> openssl storeutl -text /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:03:00.0/certificates/slot0
>
> # Fingerprint of root cert in slot0, does it match what vendor claims?
> openssl x509 -fingerprint -in /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:03:00.0/certificates/slot0
>
> # Looks good, let's trust it:
> keyctl padd asymmetric "" %:.cma < /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:03:00.0/certificates/slot0
As much fun as it is to abuse sysfs, please, let's not do this there.
You just did something that could have changed the device between
storing, checking and then trusting it as the device is never guaranteed
to remain the same across multiple calls to sysfs (i.e. yanked out and
another added.)
So let's not design in a security issue from the start please :)
thanks,
greg k-h
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Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-11 3:29 [RFC v3 00/27] lib: Rust implementation of SPDM alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 01/27] rust: add untrusted data abstraction alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 02/27] X.509: Make certificate parser public alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 03/27] X.509: Parse Subject Alternative Name in certificates alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 04/27] X.509: Move certificate length retrieval into new helper alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 05/27] certs: Create blacklist keyring earlier alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 06/27] rust: add bindings for hash.h alistair23
2026-02-19 14:48 ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02 16:18 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 07/27] rust: error: impl From<FromBytesWithNulError> for Kernel Error alistair23
2026-02-19 14:49 ` Gary Guo
2026-03-13 2:20 ` Alistair Francis
2026-03-13 10:35 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 08/27] lib: rspdm: Initial commit of Rust SPDM alistair23
2026-03-02 17:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-13 3:44 ` Alistair Francis
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 09/27] PCI/CMA: Authenticate devices on enumeration alistair23
2026-02-16 4:25 ` Aksh Garg
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 10/27] PCI/CMA: Validate Subject Alternative Name in certificates alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 11/27] PCI/CMA: Reauthenticate devices on reset and resume alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 12/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM get_version alistair23
2026-02-11 4:00 ` Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-03 11:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-13 5:35 ` Alistair Francis
2026-03-13 5:53 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-13 5:55 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-16 17:16 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 13/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM get_capabilities alistair23
2026-02-11 4:08 ` Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-03 12:09 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-03 18:07 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-20 4:32 ` Alistair Francis
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 14/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM negotiate_algorithms alistair23
2026-03-03 13:46 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 15/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM get_digests alistair23
2026-03-03 14:29 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 16/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM get_certificate alistair23
2026-03-03 14:51 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 17/27] crypto: asymmetric_keys - Load certificate parsing early in boot alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 18/27] KEYS: Load keyring and certificates " alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 19/27] PCI/CMA: Support built in X.509 certificates alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 20/27] crypto: sha: Load early in boot alistair23
2026-03-03 14:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 21/27] crypto: ecdsa: " alistair23
2026-03-03 14:54 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 22/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM certificate validation alistair23
2026-03-03 15:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 23/27] rust: allow extracting the buffer from a CString alistair23
2026-02-19 14:50 ` Gary Guo
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 24/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM challenge alistair23
2026-03-03 16:54 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 25/27] PCI/CMA: Expose in sysfs whether devices are authenticated alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 26/27] rust: add bindings for hash_info alistair23
2026-02-11 3:29 ` [RFC v3 27/27] rspdm: Multicast received signatures via netlink alistair23
2026-02-19 10:19 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-12 5:56 ` [RFC v3 00/27] lib: Rust implementation of SPDM dan.j.williams
2026-02-18 2:12 ` Alistair Francis
2026-02-17 23:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18 2:17 ` Alistair Francis
2026-02-18 23:40 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-19 0:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 5:05 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-19 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 14:15 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-19 14:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 15:07 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-19 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 20:07 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-20 8:30 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-20 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-21 18:46 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-21 23:29 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-23 17:15 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-23 19:11 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-24 14:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-05 4:17 ` dan.j.williams
2026-03-05 12:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-05 19:49 ` dan.j.williams
2026-03-09 11:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-09 12:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-09 15:33 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-09 15:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-09 18:00 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-09 20:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-09 23:11 ` DanX Williams
2026-02-24 14:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-24 15:54 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-25 14:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 14:40 ` Greg KH [this message]
2026-02-20 7:46 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-20 9:14 ` Greg KH
2026-02-20 11:45 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-20 11:57 ` Greg KH
2026-02-19 9:34 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-19 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 18:48 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-19 9:13 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-19 18:42 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-19 11:24 ` Jonathan Cameron
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