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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, Alistair Francis <alistair23@gmail.com>,
	bhelgaas@google.com, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com,
	benno.lossin@proton.me, boqun.feng@gmail.com,
	a.hindborg@kernel.org, gary@garyguo.net,
	bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, tmgross@umich.edu, ojeda@kernel.org,
	wilfred.mallawa@wdc.com, aliceryhl@google.com,
	Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	aneesh.kumar@kernel.org, yilun.xu@linux.intel.com, aik@amd.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v3 00/27] lib: Rust implementation of SPDM
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2026 12:57:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026022043-amplify-unflawed-9cd5@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aZhJTxQtrY3xDsRt@wunner.de>

On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 12:45:19PM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 10:14:56AM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 08:46:21AM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 03:40:25PM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 03:15:34PM +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > > >   # What's the certificate chain in slot0?
> > > > >   openssl storeutl -text /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:03:00.0/certificates/slot0
> > > > > 
> > > > >   # Fingerprint of root cert in slot0, does it match what vendor claims?
> > > > >   openssl x509 -fingerprint -in /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:03:00.0/certificates/slot0
> > > > > 
> > > > >   # Looks good, let's trust it:
> > > > >   keyctl padd asymmetric "" %:.cma < /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:03:00.0/certificates/slot0
> > > > 
> > So if a device is removed and a different one added between steps 2 and
> > three above, with the same pci number, all is ok?
> > 
> > Remember, PCI device ids are not unique, they can come and go and be
> > reordered and reused at any point in time.  They are fully dynamic and
> > should NEVER be used as a unique identifier except for a specific moment
> > in time.
> > 
> > In other words, you are expecting that device id to always refer to the
> > same device across all 3 operations, which is never guaranteed.
> 
> If the user chooses to replace the device between steps 2 and 3,
> they get to keep the pieces.

So you are saying that is ok to do:
   - test if we trust the fingerprint
   - trust the device of a fingerprint we didn't check

Then why do step 1 here at all?

Perhaps sysfs just isn't the best api here :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-20 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-11  3:29 [RFC v3 00/27] lib: Rust implementation of SPDM alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 01/27] rust: add untrusted data abstraction alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 02/27] X.509: Make certificate parser public alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 03/27] X.509: Parse Subject Alternative Name in certificates alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 04/27] X.509: Move certificate length retrieval into new helper alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 05/27] certs: Create blacklist keyring earlier alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 06/27] rust: add bindings for hash.h alistair23
2026-02-19 14:48   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-02 16:18   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 07/27] rust: error: impl From<FromBytesWithNulError> for Kernel Error alistair23
2026-02-19 14:49   ` Gary Guo
2026-03-13  2:20     ` Alistair Francis
2026-03-13 10:35       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 08/27] lib: rspdm: Initial commit of Rust SPDM alistair23
2026-03-02 17:09   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-13  3:44     ` Alistair Francis
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 09/27] PCI/CMA: Authenticate devices on enumeration alistair23
2026-02-16  4:25   ` Aksh Garg
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 10/27] PCI/CMA: Validate Subject Alternative Name in certificates alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 11/27] PCI/CMA: Reauthenticate devices on reset and resume alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 12/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM get_version alistair23
2026-02-11  4:00   ` Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-03 11:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-13  5:35     ` Alistair Francis
2026-03-13  5:53       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-13  5:55         ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-16 17:16       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 13/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM get_capabilities alistair23
2026-02-11  4:08   ` Wilfred Mallawa
2026-03-03 12:09   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-03 18:07     ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-20  4:32     ` Alistair Francis
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 14/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM negotiate_algorithms alistair23
2026-03-03 13:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 15/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM get_digests alistair23
2026-03-03 14:29   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 16/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM get_certificate alistair23
2026-03-03 14:51   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 17/27] crypto: asymmetric_keys - Load certificate parsing early in boot alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 18/27] KEYS: Load keyring and certificates " alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 19/27] PCI/CMA: Support built in X.509 certificates alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 20/27] crypto: sha: Load early in boot alistair23
2026-03-03 14:52   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 21/27] crypto: ecdsa: " alistair23
2026-03-03 14:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 22/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM certificate validation alistair23
2026-03-03 15:00   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 23/27] rust: allow extracting the buffer from a CString alistair23
2026-02-19 14:50   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 24/27] lib: rspdm: Support SPDM challenge alistair23
2026-03-03 16:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 25/27] PCI/CMA: Expose in sysfs whether devices are authenticated alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 26/27] rust: add bindings for hash_info alistair23
2026-02-11  3:29 ` [RFC v3 27/27] rspdm: Multicast received signatures via netlink alistair23
2026-02-19 10:19   ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-12  5:56 ` [RFC v3 00/27] lib: Rust implementation of SPDM dan.j.williams
2026-02-18  2:12   ` Alistair Francis
2026-02-17 23:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-18  2:17   ` Alistair Francis
2026-02-18 23:40     ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-19  0:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19  5:05         ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-19 12:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 14:15             ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-19 14:31               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 15:07                 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-19 17:39                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 20:07                     ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-20  8:30                     ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-20 14:10                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-21 18:46                         ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-21 23:29                           ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-23 17:15                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-23 19:11                               ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-24 14:33                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-05  4:17                                 ` dan.j.williams
2026-03-05 12:48                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-05 19:49                                     ` dan.j.williams
2026-03-09 11:39                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-09 12:31                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-09 15:33                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-09 15:59                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-09 18:00                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-03-09 20:40                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-09 23:11                                                   ` DanX Williams
2026-02-24 14:16                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-24 15:54                             ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-25 14:50                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 14:40               ` Greg KH
2026-02-20  7:46                 ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-20  9:14                   ` Greg KH
2026-02-20 11:45                     ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-20 11:57                       ` Greg KH [this message]
2026-02-19  9:34         ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-19 12:43           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-19 18:48           ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-19  9:13       ` Lukas Wunner
2026-02-19 18:42         ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-19 11:24   ` Jonathan Cameron

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