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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Steve Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Santosh Shukla <santosh.shukla@amd.com>,
	"Pratik R . Sampat" <prsampat@amd.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	michael.roth@amd.com, vannapurve@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH kernel] iommufd: Allow mapping from KVM's guest_memfd
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2026 21:09:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260227010902.GE44359@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aaDlRdnhIqRXEbPZ@google.com>

On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 04:28:53PM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > I'm confused though - I thought in-place conversion ment that
> > private<->shared re-used the existing memory allocation? Why does it
> > "remove" memory?
> > 
> > Or perhaps more broadly, where is the shared memory kept/accessed in
> > these guest memfd systems?
> 
> Oh, the physical memory doesn't change, but the IOMMU might care that memory is
> being converted from private<=>shared.  AMD IOMMU probably doesn't?  But unless
> Intel IOMMU reuses S-EPT from the VM itself, the IOMMU page tables will need to
> be updated.

Okay, so then it is probably OK for AMD and ARM to just let
shared/private happen and whatever userspace does or doesn't do is not
important. The IOPTE will point at guaranteed allocated memory and any
faults caused by imporerly putting private in a shared slot will be
contained.

I have no idea what happens to Intel if the shared IOMMU points to a
private page? The machine catches fire and daemons spawn from a
fissure?

Or maybe we are lucky and it generates a nice contained fault like the
other two so we don't need to build something elaborate and special to
make up for horrible hardware? Pretty please?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-27  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-25  7:52 [RFC PATCH kernel] iommufd: Allow mapping from KVM's guest_memfd Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 13:55 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-26  6:47   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-26 19:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-27 11:03       ` Xu Yilun
2026-02-26  8:19   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-02-26 19:07     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-26 22:40       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-27  0:21         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-27  0:28           ` Sean Christopherson
2026-02-27  1:09             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-02-27 10:35               ` Xu Yilun
2026-02-27 13:18                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-28  4:14                   ` Xu Yilun
2026-02-28 18:29                     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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