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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Matt Evans <mattev@meta.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>,
	"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Mastro" <amastro@fb.com>,
	"Mahmoud Adam" <mngyadam@amazon.de>,
	"David Matlack" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Ankit Agrawal" <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	"Pranjal Shrivastava" <praan@google.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Vivek Kasireddy" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/7] vfio/pci: Support mmap() of a DMABUF
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 15:48:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260227194807.GL5933@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c5a8f318-20af-4d80-a279-2393192108c3@meta.com>

On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 07:42:08PM +0000, Matt Evans wrote:
> Hi Jason + Christian,
> 
> On 27/02/2026 12:51, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 11:09:31AM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> > 
> >> When a DMA-buf just represents a linear piece of BAR which is
> >> map-able through the VFIO FD anyway then the right approach is to
> >> just re-direct the mapping to this VFIO FD.
> 
> We think limiting this to one range per DMABUF isn't enough,
> i.e. supporting multiple ranges will be a benefit.
> 
> Bumping vm_pgoff to then reuse vfio_pci_mmap_ops is a really nice
> suggestion for the simplest case, but can't support multiple ranges;
> the .fault() needs to be aware of the non-linear DMABUF layout.

Sigh, yes that's right we have the non-linear thing, and if you need
that to work it can't use the existing code.

> > I actually would like to go the other way and have VFIO always have a
> > DMABUF under the VMA's it mmaps because that will make it easy to
> > finish the type1 emulation which requires finding dmabufs for the
> > VMAs.

This is a still better idea since it avoid duplicating the VMA flow
into two parts..

> Putting aside the above point of needing a new .fault() able to find a
> PFN for >1 range for a mo, how would the test of the revoked flag work
> w.r.t. synchronisation and protecting against a racing revoke?  It's not
> safe to take memory_lock, test revoked, unlock, then hand over to the
> existing vfio_pci_mmap_*fault() -- which re-takes the lock.  I'm not
> quite seeing how we could reuse the existing vfio_pci_mmap_*fault(),
> TBH.  I did briefly consider refactoring that existing .fault() code,
> but that makes both paths uglier.

More reasons to do the above..

> > Possibly for this use case you can keep that and do a global unmap and
> > rely on fault to restore the mmaps that were not revoked.
> 
> Hm, that'd be functional, but we should consider huge BARs with a lot of
> PTEs (even huge ones); zapping all BARs might noticeably disturb other
> clients.  But see my query below please, if we could zap just the
> resource being reclaimed that would be preferable.

Hurm. Otherwise you have to create a bunch of address spaces and
juggle them.

> >> Otherwise functions like vfio_pci_zap_bars() doesn't work correctly 
> >> any more and that usually creates a huge bunch of problems.
> 
> I'd reasoned it was OK for the DMABUF to have its own unique address
> space -- even though IIUC that means an unmap_mapping_range() by
> vfio_pci_core_device won't affect a DMABUF's mappings -- because
> anything that needs to zap a BAR _also_ must already plan to notify
> DMABUF importers via vfio_pci_dma_buf_move().  And then,
> vfio_pci_dma_buf_move() will zap the mappings.

That might be correct, but if then it is yet another reason to do the
first point and remove the shared address_space fully.

Basically one mmap flow that always uses dma-buf and always uses a
per-dma-buf address space with a per-FD revoke and so on and so forth.

This way there is still one of everything, we just pay a bit of cost
to automatically create a dmabuf file * in the existing path.

> Are there paths that _don't_ always pair vfio_pci_zap_bars() with a
> vfio_pci_dma_buf_move()?

There should not be.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-27 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-26 20:21 [RFC PATCH 0/7] vfio/pci: Add mmap() for DMABUFs Matt Evans
2026-02-26 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] vfio/pci: Ensure VFIO barmap is set up before creating a DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-02-26 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] vfio/pci: Clean up DMABUFs before disabling function Matt Evans
2026-02-26 20:21 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] vfio/pci: Support mmap() of a DMABUF Matt Evans
2026-02-27 10:09   ` Christian König
2026-02-27 12:51     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-27 19:42       ` Matt Evans
2026-02-27 19:48         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-02-27 21:52           ` Alex Mastro
2026-02-27 22:00             ` Alex Mastro
2026-02-27 22:04             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-02 10:07               ` Christian König
2026-03-02 12:54                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-02 13:20                   ` Christian König
2026-02-26 20:22 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] dma-buf: uapi: Mechanism to revoke DMABUFs via ioctl() Matt Evans
2026-02-27 10:05   ` Christian König
2026-02-27 12:56     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-27 13:02     ` Matt Evans
2026-02-27 15:20       ` Christian König
2026-02-27 16:19         ` Matt Evans
2026-02-26 20:22 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] vfio/pci: Permanently revoke a DMABUF on request Matt Evans
2026-02-26 20:22 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] vfio/pci: Add mmap() attributes to DMABUF feature Matt Evans
2026-02-26 20:22 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] [RFC ONLY] selftests: vfio: Add standalone vfio_dmabuf_mmap_test Matt Evans

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