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Subject: Re: [PATCH kernel 4/9] dma/swiotlb: Stop forcing SWIOTLB for TDISP devices
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2026 20:28:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260228002808.GO44359@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <699f621daab02_2f4a1008f@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch>
On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 12:57:01PM -0800, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
> > (since a device that's trusted to access private memory
> > isn't necessarily prohibited from still also accessing shared memory as
> > well), hmmm...
>
> The specification allows it, but Linux DMA mapping core is not yet ready
> for it. So the expectation to start is that the device loses access to
> its original shared IOMMU mappings when converted to private operation.
Yes, the underlying translation changes, but no, it doesn't loose DMA
access to any shared pages, it just goes through the T=1 IOMMU now.
The T=1 IOMMU will still have them mapped on all three platforms
AFAIK. On TDX/CCA the CPU and IOMMU S2 tables are identical, so of
course the shared pages are mapped. On AMD there is only one IOMMU so
the page must also be mapped or non-TDISP is broken.
When this TDISP awareness is put in the DMA API it needs to be done in
a way that allows DMA_ATTR_CC_DECRYPTED to keep working for TDISP
devices.
This is important because we are expecting these sorts of things to
work as part of integrating non-TDISP RDMA devices into CC guests. We
can't loose access to the shared pages that are shared with the
non-TDISP devices...
> So on ARM where shared addresses are high, it is future work to figure
> out how an accepted device might also access shared mappings outside the
> device's dma_mask.
ARM has a "solution" right now. The location of the high bit is
controlled by the VMM and the VMM cannot create a CC VM where the IPA
space exceeds the dma_mask of any assigned device.
Thus the VMM must limit the total available DRAM to fit within the HW
restrictions.
Hopefully TDX can do the same.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-28 0:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-25 5:37 [PATCH kernel 0/9] PCI/TSM: coco/sev-guest: Implement SEV-TIO PCIe TDISP (phase2) Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 1/9] pci/tsm: Add TDISP report blob and helpers to parse it Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 6:16 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-25 10:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-26 0:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-26 2:34 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-26 3:49 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-26 21:08 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 2/9] pci/tsm: Add tsm_tdi_status Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 6:33 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-25 23:42 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-02 6:58 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 3/9] coco/sev-guest: Allow multiple source files in the driver Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 4/9] dma/swiotlb: Stop forcing SWIOTLB for TDISP devices Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 16:30 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-25 18:00 ` Robin Murphy
2026-02-25 20:57 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-28 0:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-03-02 23:53 ` dan.j.williams
2026-03-03 0:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-03 0:29 ` dan.j.williams
2026-03-03 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-04 6:45 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-04 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-25 10:42 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 16:48 ` Robin Murphy
2026-02-26 0:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-02 7:54 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 5/9] x86/mm: Stop forcing decrypted page state " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 16:51 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 6/9] x86/dma-direct: Stop changing encrypted " Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 17:08 ` Robin Murphy
2026-02-25 21:35 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-26 6:22 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-28 0:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-02 0:01 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-02 0:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-02 5:26 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-02 13:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-03-03 8:19 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-03 12:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 7/9] coco/sev-guest: Implement the guest support for SEV TIO (phase2) Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-25 6:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-02-26 3:39 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-26 19:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 8/9] RFC: PCI: Avoid needless touching of Command register Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-26 0:24 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2026-02-26 5:58 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-02-26 0:34 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-25 5:37 ` [PATCH kernel 9/9] pci: Allow encrypted MMIO mapping via sysfs Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-03-02 8:20 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-03-02 8:59 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
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