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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Julian Orth <ju.orth@gmail.com>
Cc: "Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Michel Dänzer" <michel.daenzer@mailbox.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Dmitry Osipenko" <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com>,
	"Rob Clark" <robin.clark@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/syncobj: Fix handle <-> fd ioctls with dirty stack
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 19:58:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260303195835.4c23be7a@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHijbEUJkZHw4DeE4wmeD3dvEcnGXVqsHDg7QHHa6i=6LT38bQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 3 Mar 2026 18:44:59 +0100
Julian Orth <ju.orth@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 6:41 PM Maarten Lankhorst
> <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > My point is that it works for old userspace without problems. It's only
> > newly compiled userspace with new headers that will run into problems.
> > The code as written would have continued to work, but if you update to
> > the new header and don't initialise the new members then it's a userspace
> > problem. It should not be worked around in the kernel, since it's newly
> > written bad userspace code, not old bad userspace code that stopped working
> > when the kernel changed.  
> 
> But it's not newly written. The example is, say, 5 year old code. The
> binary that was compiled 5 years ago works fine as you say. But if you
> take the same code and just run gcc again, the new binary will no
> longer work.
> 

Worse, the recompiled version may well work when you test it, and even
when deployed.
But you'll get non-obvious random failures - a support nightmare.

Probably best code is something like:
	case OLD_IOCTL_CODE:
		if (ioc->flag & NEW_FLAG)
			return -EINVAL;
		/* FALLTHROUGH *.
	case NEW_IOCTL_CODE:
		if (!(ioc->flag & NEW_FLAG))
			ioc->new_field = 0;

    David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-01 12:34 [PATCH] drm/syncobj: Fix handle <-> fd ioctls with dirty stack Julian Orth
2026-03-02 11:27 ` Christian König
2026-03-02 11:54   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2026-03-03 11:17 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-03 11:23   ` Julian Orth
2026-03-03 11:38     ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-03 11:41       ` Julian Orth
2026-03-03 14:53 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-03-03 14:59   ` Christian König
2026-03-03 15:15     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-03-03 15:21       ` Julian Orth
2026-03-03 17:02         ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-03 15:29     ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-03 15:36       ` Julian Orth
2026-03-03 16:40         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-03-03 16:54           ` Julian Orth
2026-03-03 17:04             ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-03 17:11               ` Julian Orth
2026-03-03 17:18                 ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-03 17:30                   ` Julian Orth
2026-03-03 17:44                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-03-03 18:53                       ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-03 19:12                         ` Julian Orth
2026-03-04  9:57                           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-03-04 11:15                           ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-04 11:25                             ` Julian Orth
2026-03-04 11:47                               ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-04 12:32                                 ` Julian Orth
2026-03-04 14:29                                   ` Michel Dänzer
2026-03-04 14:35                                     ` Julian Orth
2026-03-05  9:47                               ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-03-03 17:40                   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-03-03 17:44                     ` Julian Orth
2026-03-03 19:58                       ` David Laight [this message]
2026-03-04 10:35                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-03-03 17:05             ` Maarten Lankhorst

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