From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E99C914F9FB; Sat, 7 Mar 2026 21:59:43 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772920784; cv=none; b=ESNJ5FJAD9LnXTPNxcQElzXdowAtTeP4WK6BQxGUX7C4H1fbXiGZROxk5Ubb5I2nkUnFwp1LZ3sYVVRsIjWsWeaE2EZ9PEgQnORYZctMLteA54HyoAkTZ5KquUO5nOx0EHA2bL5XtejMriAhCiLOTAwyEGrgCFxZql251hAGj2Y= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772920784; c=relaxed/simple; bh=vYR50fxKZxiDLmX+pEOc4uv+UC5xHS1Ej0h0VOgf6Tc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SiovD2a+ecBT3yTRfiewek13quQ3KHbHdmwqb5liOFvxzky6ZC87eq45CO0fvidzODoIPunngRxo8104vicLfJStUZTyGU9rKjRnWllp5XK+xs8o2fcxXItvXhCx4YIsKDI3bHUHvcP6ZQ9/skG+zaHRaYMOBIY64VDN4mxBTGA= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=UIi/QH82; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="UIi/QH82" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6B243C19422; Sat, 7 Mar 2026 21:59:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1772920783; bh=vYR50fxKZxiDLmX+pEOc4uv+UC5xHS1Ej0h0VOgf6Tc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=UIi/QH82Rwi+fgVrxBGfbeyUiJLVkcPi4gVI7W1IkWwrHAoCkcoU3gYAQC+xCHaXI 1DxslLuHzG8JucFxevAR7xEvcD5f1V83Anz68dKC59EB36AOBiWbLFnCtziyHhWPko eFa4QbVvKmNQHqWCUmwnlTIyoO4NkJhsdFggUyRQI8szLQGs8RokQ3pRKfgW1/TI0X RV9ato+mWdeDCSGlNdmwEL2uKWeGHExOYnVtAk7ZWkOSucbSmSbSEEXquYMQZBQsuF MxGLdqGlgtMKK11BdRBMUkn2LQRoNJ1w/Ru7NQL5hlzhvWUFKVbNiokN7couwaESaK jMDP9OHdUen9g== Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 13:59:41 -0800 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Alice Ryhl Cc: Miguel Ojeda , Boqun Feng , Gary Guo , "=?UTF-8?B?QmrDtnJu?= Roy Baron" , Benno Lossin , Andreas Hindborg , Trevor Gross , Danilo Krummrich , Donald Hunter , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Paolo Abeni , Simon Horman , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "Arve =?UTF-8?B?SGrDuG5uZXbDpWc=?=" , Todd Kjos , Christian Brauner , Carlos Llamas , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Rust netlink support + use in Rust Binder Message-ID: <20260307135941.51353a4f@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20260306-binder-netlink-v1-0-daceb5bc83f2@google.com> <20260307104131.4c1d0de5@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 7 Mar 2026 21:19:06 +0000 Alice Ryhl wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2026 at 10:41:31AM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > On Fri, 06 Mar 2026 15:12:12 +0000 Alice Ryhl wrote: > > > The C Binder driver exposes messages over netlink when transactions > > > fail, so that a userpace daemon can respond to processes with many > > > failing transactions. > > > > Ugh, now I regret letting binder use Netlink. Should have seen this > > coming :/ > > To be honest, I'm not entirely happy with what Binder is using netlink > for either, but it is what it is. If we're both not happy let's take this opportunity to find a better solution?