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From: Gustavo Arantes <dev.gustavoa@gmail.com>
To: marvin24@gmx.de
Cc: gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-staging@lists.linux.dev,
	ac100@lists.launchpad.net, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Gustavo Arantes <dev.gustavoa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] staging: nvec_power: quiesce EC queries for system suspend
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2026 18:48:51 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260315214851.15008-1-dev.gustavoa@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <233329fb-0ea9-d784-b56c-f078a329d370@gmx.de>

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Hello Marc,

thanks for reviewing.

On Sun, 15 Mar 2026, Marc Dietrich wrote:
> Reading out the battery info during boot takes some time as far as I
> remember, but I haven't tested your patches yet. Is the use of sync
> writes really required in order to realize a clean suspend?

You're right, I worked out some math on this, and I agree that the sync
conversion isn't strictly necessary.

The worst case with async writes during suspend is a reply arriving
after work has been cancelled. That reply would just be lost, and since
the poller refreshes everything on resume, there's no corruption or
crash — just one missed update.

The sync approach does avoid that window, but the cost is structural:
the battery metadata init serializes N queries, so the boot-time wall
time goes from roughly one EC round-trip to N * T_rt. With N = 3
(MANUFACTURER, MODEL, TYPE), the relative overhead is always 2x
regardless of how fast the EC is. Without hardware to measure T_rt
I can't tell whether that's 100ms or 2s of added latency, but either
way it's a cost with no real safety benefit.

> Are you able to test the change on real hardware?

Unfortunately I don't have access to Tegra 2 hardware, so this has
only been build-tested and reviewed by inspection. I'd appreciate it
if you or someone on the ac100 list could validate the v2 on a real
device.

If you think the lost-reply window during suspend is benign, I'd
prefer to drop patch 1 and send a v2 with just the PM hooks on top
of the existing async flow. Otherwise, I'm happy to keep the sync
conversion as-is.


Best regards,
Gustavo Arantes

      reply	other threads:[~2026-03-15 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-12 21:11 [PATCH 0/2] staging: nvec_power: quiesce EC queries for system suspend Gustavo Arantes
2026-03-12 21:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] staging: nvec_power: make EC queries synchronous Gustavo Arantes
2026-03-12 21:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] staging: nvec_power: stop EC queries during system suspend Gustavo Arantes
2026-03-15 20:48 ` [PATCH 0/2] staging: nvec_power: quiesce EC queries for " Marc Dietrich
2026-03-15 21:48   ` Gustavo Arantes [this message]

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