From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Justin Stitt" <justinstitt@google.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] types: Add standard __ob_trap and __ob_wrap scalar types
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 13:31:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202603311321.4EE9FEA@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjSOGaausLeTD13yAqso7qM09EnkDFiN7wF15kH0VWmZQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 01:11:22PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 at 13:03, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Mark Rutland had strong reservations about function-level annotations,
> > but I wonder if the combination of new type _and_ function-level
> > annotation could get us something near what would be palatable:
>
> Yes, if we had some way to specify the label, that actually looks
> really nice to me.
>
> So with _this_ kind of interface, all my reservations about it go away.
>
> And as long as the compiler actually requires that label to exist when
> trapping arithmetic is done, I don't think people will use it without
> having fixups.
>
> > Or we could make the label a global part of the language itself so it
> > wouldn't need to be a function annotation, but rather a _required_
> > element of any function that uses a trapping type?
>
> Yes, I'd be ok with that too, because I think in practice you
> typically only ever have one, and I guess you could use local labels -
> or multiple functions - if you really needed to have different
> targets.
Yeah, as you mentioned earlier, I'd agree that nesting is rarely
useful. The only thing I'd want to be careful about is ordering/scope. I
*think* it would just operate as a "goto" and things like the cleanup.h
handlers wouldn't be involved: they operate when a scope is crossed
like before. And I think the overflow result wouldn't be represented
anywhere. i.e. the wrapped/truncated value wouldn't be stored:
int func()
{
...
u8 __ob_trap product = 5;
...
product = a * b; // if store is truncated, goto __overflow
...
return product;
__overflow:
pr_info("%u\n", product); // shows "5"
return -1;
}
(Isn't this just an implicit "try"?)
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-31 20:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-31 16:37 [PATCH 0/5] Introduce Overflow Behavior Types Kees Cook
2026-03-31 16:37 ` [PATCH 1/5] refcount: Remove unused __signed_wrap function annotations Kees Cook
2026-03-31 16:37 ` [PATCH 2/5] hardening: Introduce Overflow Behavior Types support Kees Cook
2026-03-31 16:37 ` [PATCH 3/5] compiler_attributes: Add overflow_behavior macros __ob_trap and __ob_wrap Kees Cook
2026-03-31 17:01 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-31 17:09 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-31 17:09 ` Justin Stitt
2026-03-31 17:14 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-31 17:17 ` Justin Stitt
2026-03-31 19:52 ` Kees Cook
2026-04-01 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 20:21 ` Kees Cook
2026-04-01 20:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 20:55 ` Kees Cook
2026-04-01 23:42 ` Justin Stitt
2026-04-02 9:13 ` David Laight
2026-03-31 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-01 7:19 ` Vincent Mailhol
2026-04-01 9:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 19:43 ` Kees Cook
2026-04-01 19:42 ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31 16:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] lkdtm/bugs: Add basic Overflow Behavior Types test Kees Cook
2026-03-31 17:16 ` Justin Stitt
2026-03-31 16:37 ` [PATCH 5/5] types: Add standard __ob_trap and __ob_wrap scalar types Kees Cook
2026-03-31 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 17:47 ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-03-31 18:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 18:59 ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 18:32 ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 18:16 ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31 20:03 ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 20:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 20:31 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2026-03-31 20:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-03-31 21:50 ` Justin Stitt
2026-03-31 23:49 ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31 23:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-04-01 8:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 20:52 ` Kees Cook
2026-04-02 5:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 8:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 20:23 ` Kees Cook
2026-04-01 9:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 21:41 ` Kees Cook
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