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From: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH next 2/3] fortify: Optimise strnlen()
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2026 09:50:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260403095008.6efbaf11@pumpkin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202603311650.A59396A@keescook>

On Tue, 31 Mar 2026 16:51:26 -0700
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 31, 2026 at 11:09:14PM +0100, David Laight wrote:
> > Any uses should be replaced by __builtin_strlen().  
> 
> When I looked at this before, __builtin_strlen() flip to run-time strlen
> on non-constant strings, which is why I had to jump through all the
> hoops to avoid calling it in those cases.
> 

Thinks further.
Can you remember anywhere where:
	len = __builtin_strlen(x);
	if (__builtin_constant_p(len))
		...
actually called strlen() for a non-constant string.
I did do some tests and it was always optimised away.

I might try getting all this code to use a renamed strlen() and
then scan the entire kernel for references to strlen() itself.
There might be a small number of valid ones, but I'd expect most
would come from the compiler.
(Or get the compiler to generate 'rep scasb' and look for that.)

I suspect it might be enough to check that both str and str[0]
are constant before calling __builtin_strlen() and then check
the returned length is constant.
All the checks might be needed for:
	str = cond ? "four" : "f\0ur";
since the compile might realise that str[0] is always 'f' and
str[4] always 0 - but strlen differs.

However I suspect that __builtin_constant_p(array[index]) currently
requires that both the array and index are constant.
So testing array[0] is equivalent.

Given it needs all the separate paths, writing strscpy with:
	if (__builtin_constant_p(src[0]) {
		len = __builtin_strlen(src);
		if (__builtin_constant_p(len)) {
			/* code for constant length */
			return xxx;
		}
	}
	/* code for non-constant length */

One thing I did notice is that for:
char src[32];
char dst[32];

void func(void)
{
	strscpy(dst, src, 32);
}

it seems to generate a call to strnlen() followed by a call to
strscpy_sized().
That seems wrong, since all three lengths are 32 it should be
safe to just call strscpy_sized().
And having done the strnlen() it ought to use memcpy().
But, really most of that ought to be moved into the called function.
So you want:
int strcpy_sized(char *dst, const char *src, size_t dst_len, size_t src_len);
where the wrapper fills in src_len.

	David


			

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-03  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-30 13:20 [PATCH next 0/3] fortify: Minor changes to strlen() and strnlen() david.laight.linux
2026-03-30 13:20 ` [PATCH next 1/3] fortify: replace __compiletime_lessthan() with statically_true() david.laight.linux
2026-03-30 23:50   ` Kees Cook
2026-03-30 13:20 ` [PATCH next 2/3] fortify: Optimise strnlen() david.laight.linux
2026-03-30 23:54   ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31 22:09     ` David Laight
2026-03-31 23:51       ` Kees Cook
2026-04-01 13:48         ` David Laight
2026-04-03  8:50         ` David Laight [this message]
2026-03-31  6:36   ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31 10:14     ` David Laight
2026-03-31 14:55       ` David Laight
2026-03-31 15:56         ` Kees Cook
2026-04-01  0:15   ` kernel test robot
2026-04-03  8:23     ` David Laight
2026-03-30 13:20 ` [PATCH next 3/3] fortify: Simplify strlen() logic david.laight.linux
2026-03-31  6:07   ` Kees Cook
2026-03-31  8:58     ` David Laight
2026-03-31  6:18   ` Kees Cook

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