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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: hugh@blemings.id.au
Cc: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com,
	horms@kernel.org, linux-hams@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com, stable@kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org,
	yizhe@darknavy.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] netrom: do some basic forms of validation on incoming frames
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2026 07:50:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2026041135-shindig-trekker-5d06@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f5810a7-c792-4d6b-9f7c-6c6b289def19@blemings.org>

On Sat, Apr 11, 2026 at 08:25:19AM +1000, Hugh Blemings wrote:
> 
> On 11/4/2026 08:11, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> > From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
> > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2026 14:54:48 -0700
> > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 14:30:42 -0700 Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2026 07:24:36 +0200 Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 09, 2026 at 08:32:35PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > > > > Or for simplicity we could also be testing against skb_headlen()
> > > > > > since we don't expect any legit non-linear frames here? Dunno.
> > > > > I'll be glad to change this either way, your call.  Given that this is
> > > > > an obsolete protocol that seems to only be a target for drive-by fuzzers
> > > > > to attack, whatever the simplest thing to do to quiet them up I'll be
> > > > > glad to implement.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or can we just delete this stuff entirely?  :)
> > > > Yes.
> > > > 
> > > > My thinking is to delete hamradio, nfc, atm, caif.. [more to come]
> > > > Create GH repos which provide them as OOT modules.
> > > > Hopefully we can convince any existing users to switch to that.
> > > > 
> > > > The only thing stopping me is the concern that this is just the softest
> > > > target and the LLMs will find something else to focus on which we can't
> > > > delete. I suspect any PCIe driver can be flooded with "aren't you
> > > > trusting the HW to provide valid responses here?" bullshit.
> > > > 
> > > > But hey, let's try. I'll post a patch nuking all of hamradio later
> > > > today.
> > > Well, either we "expunge" this code to OOT repos, or we mark it
> > > as broken and tell everyone that we don't take security fixes
> > > for anything that depends on BROKEN. I'd personally rather expunge.
> > +1 for "expunge" to prevent LLM-based patch flood.
> > 
> > IIRC, we did that recently for one driver only used by OpenWRT ?
> > 
> > 
> If the main concern here is ongoing maintenance of these Ham Radio related
> protocols/drivers, can we pause for a moment on anything as dramatic as
> removing from the tree entirely ?

Sure, but:

> There is a good cohort of capable kernel folks that either are or were ham
> radio operators who I believe, upon realising that things have got to this
> point, will be happy to redouble efforts to ensure this code maintained and
> tested to a satisfactory standard.

We need this code to be maintained, because as is being shown, there are
reported problems with it that will affect these devices/networks that
you all are using.  So all we need is a maintainer for this to be able
to take reports that we get and fix things up as needed.  I know you
have that experience, want to come back to kernel development, we've
missed you :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-11  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07  8:45 [PATCH net] netrom: do some basic forms of validation on incoming frames Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-09 19:03 ` Simon Horman
2026-04-10  3:32   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10  5:24     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-04-10 10:28       ` Simon Horman
2026-04-10 15:12         ` jj
2026-04-10 16:38           ` David Ranch
2026-04-10 17:21             ` Dan Carpenter
2026-04-10 18:23           ` Dan Cross
2026-04-10 21:30       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10 21:54         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10 22:11           ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2026-04-10 22:25             ` Hugh Blemings
2026-04-10 22:51               ` Craig
2026-04-10 23:38                 ` Hugh Blemings
     [not found]                   ` <CANnsUMEniMzLnp5h=Gz83=Wcegc-jGz9vqyWyEpWx-OH=Dij1w@mail.gmail.com>
2026-04-11 20:33                     ` Chris Maness
2026-04-11  5:50               ` Greg KH [this message]
2026-04-11  7:24                 ` Hugh Blemings
2026-04-11  8:58                   ` Greg KH

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