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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/9] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 04:29:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260413042505-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e1b349b-d0df-4ad5-8050-9a2b3b3831ac@kernel.org>

On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 10:15:08AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 4/13/26 10:10, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 10:00:58AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> On 4/13/26 00:50, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> When a guest reports free pages to the hypervisor via the page reporting
> >>> framework (used by virtio-balloon and hv_balloon), the host typically
> >>> zeros those pages when reclaiming their backing memory.  However, when
> >>> those pages are later allocated in the guest, post_alloc_hook()
> >>> unconditionally zeros them again if __GFP_ZERO is set.  This
> >>> double-zeroing is wasteful, especially for large pages.
> >>>
> >>> Avoid redundant zeroing by propagating the "host already zeroed this"
> >>> information through the allocation path:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Add a host_zeroes_pages flag to page_reporting_dev_info, allowing
> >>>    drivers to declare that their host zeros reported pages on reclaim.
> >>>    A static key (page_reporting_host_zeroes) gates the fast path.
> >>>
> >>> 2. In page_del_and_expand(), when the page was reported and the
> >>>    static key is enabled, stash a sentinel value (MAGIC_PAGE_ZEROED)
> >>>    in page->private.
> >>>
> >>> 3. In post_alloc_hook(), check page->private for the sentinel.  If
> >>>    present and zeroing was requested (but not tag zeroing), skip
> >>>    kernel_init_pages().
> >>>
> >>> In particular, __GFP_ZERO is used by the x86 arch override of
> >>> vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio.
> >>>
> >>> No driver sets host_zeroes_pages yet; a follow-up patch to
> >>> virtio_balloon is needed to opt in.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >>> Assisted-by: Claude:claude-opus-4-6
> >>> ---
> >>>  include/linux/mm.h             |  6 ++++++
> >>>  include/linux/page_reporting.h |  3 +++
> >>>  mm/page_alloc.c                | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>  mm/page_reporting.c            |  9 +++++++++
> >>>  mm/page_reporting.h            |  2 ++
> >>>  5 files changed, 41 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> >>> index 5be3d8a8f806..59fc77c4c90e 100644
> >>> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> >>> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> >>> @@ -4814,6 +4814,12 @@ static inline bool user_alloc_needs_zeroing(void)
> >>>  				   &init_on_alloc);
> >>>  }
> >>>  
> >>> +/*
> >>> + * Sentinel stored in page->private to indicate the page was pre-zeroed
> >>> + * by the hypervisor (via free page reporting).
> >>> + */
> >>> +#define MAGIC_PAGE_ZEROED	0x5A45524FU	/* ZERO */
> >>
> >> Why are we not using another page flag that is yet unused for buddy pages?
> > 
> > Because we need to report the status *after* it left buddy.
> > And all flags are in use at that point.
> 
> I'll comment on that on the other patch, where __GFP_PREZEROED, which I
> really hate, is added.
> 
> > 
> > 
> >> Using page->private for that, and exposing it to buddy users with the
> >> __GFP_PREZEROED flag (I hope we can avoid that) does not sound
> >> particularly elegant.
> > 
> > But propagating this all over mm does not sound too palatable, right?
> > There's precedent with MAGIC_HWPOISON already.
> > Better ideas? Thanks!
> 
> I'll comment on the __GFP_PREZEROED patch.
> 
> > 
> >> Also, if we're going to remember that some pages in the buddy are
> >> pre-zeroed, it should better not be free-page-reporting specific.
> >> I'd assume ordinary inflating+deflating of the balloon would also end up
> >> with pre-zeroed pages. We'd just need a (mm/balloon.c -specific)
> >> interface to tell the buddy that the pages are zeroed.
> >>
> > 
> > Indeed, it's also easily possible - it's a separate optimization, though.
> > Another simple enhancement is including hugetlbfs freelists in page
> > reporting.
> > Doesn't need to block this patchset though, right?
> 
> Not blocking, but I don't want something that is too coupled to
> free-page reporting optimizations in the buddy.


I can add that in the next version if you like, sure.  The main issue is
that it means we need a flag that survives free.  And the benefit is
much smaller - unlike page reports, deflates are rare.

> The comment above
> MAGIC_PAGE_ZEROED triggered my reaction.

yea, that's more confusing than helpful.

> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> David


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-13  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-12 22:50 [PATCH RFC 0/9] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 1/9] mm: page_alloc: propagate PageReported flag across buddy splits Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 2/9] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13  8:00   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13  8:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13  8:15       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13  8:29         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] mm: add __GFP_PREZEROED flag and folio_test_clear_prezeroed() Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13  9:05   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 4/9] mm: skip zeroing in vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio for pre-zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 5/9] mm: skip zeroing in alloc_anon_folio " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 6/9] mm: skip zeroing in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 7/9] mm: hugetlb: skip zeroing of pre-zeroed hugetlb pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 8/9] mm: page_reporting: add flush parameter to trigger immediate reporting Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 9/9] virtio_balloon: a hack to enable host-zeroed page optimization Michael S. Tsirkin

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