From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Simon Schippers <simon.schippers@tu-dortmund.de>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com, eperezma@redhat.com, leiyang@redhat.com,
stephen@networkplumber.org, jon@nutanix.com,
tim.gebauer@tu-dortmund.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 4/4] tun/tap & vhost-net: avoid ptr_ring tail-drop when a qdisc is present
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 06:51:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260416065132-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73033bfc-4da3-4057-9480-bd977a66ecef@tu-dortmund.de>
On Thu, Apr 16, 2026 at 10:54:45AM +0200, Simon Schippers wrote:
> To summarize the discussion from my POV:
>
> Open point: __ptr_ring_zero_tail() is only called after
> consuming ring.batch elements.
> 1) Consumer wakes up the producer but the slot is not cleaned.
> --> I disagree, the consumer only wakes after consuming ring.size/2.
> Then __ptr_ring_zero_tail() was called at least once.
> 2) Producer is woken up but see the ring is full, so it need to
> drop the packet.
> --> I disagree, because then NETDEV_TX_BUSY is returned. This is
> noticeable as qdisc requeue and only happens very rarely.
>
> Points I will address:
> - Minor nit on patch 2 by MST.
> - Rebase patch 3 because of commit d748047
> ("ptr_ring: disable KCSAN warnings").
> - Document the pair of the smp_mb__after_atomic() in tun_net_xmit
> with tun_ring_consume().
> - Use 1 ptr_ring spinlock instead of 2 (currently used for consume
> and empty check), not sure how to implement it pretty rn.
> - Run pktgen benchmarks with pg_set SHARED.
Thanks! The plan makes sense to me.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-16 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-12 13:06 [PATCH net-next v8 0/4] tun/tap & vhost-net: apply qdisc backpressure on full ptr_ring to reduce TX drops Simon Schippers
2026-03-12 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v8 1/4] tun/tap: add ptr_ring consume helper with netdev queue wakeup Simon Schippers
2026-03-24 1:47 ` Jason Wang
2026-03-12 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v8 2/4] vhost-net: wake queue of tun/tap after ptr_ring consume Simon Schippers
2026-03-12 13:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-03-24 1:47 ` Jason Wang
2026-03-12 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v8 3/4] ptr_ring: move free-space check into separate helper Simon Schippers
2026-03-12 13:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-12 13:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-03-12 14:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2026-03-25 11:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-03-12 13:06 ` [PATCH net-next v8 4/4] tun/tap & vhost-net: avoid ptr_ring tail-drop when a qdisc is present Simon Schippers
2026-03-24 1:47 ` Jason Wang
2026-03-24 10:14 ` Simon Schippers
2026-03-25 14:47 ` Simon Schippers
2026-03-26 2:41 ` Jason Wang
2026-03-26 15:30 ` Simon Schippers
2026-03-27 1:13 ` Jason Wang
2026-03-27 8:31 ` Simon Schippers
2026-04-08 19:04 ` Simon Schippers
2026-04-15 18:27 ` Simon Schippers
2026-04-16 8:54 ` Simon Schippers
2026-04-16 10:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-03-27 8:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-03-12 13:55 ` [PATCH net-next v8 0/4] tun/tap & vhost-net: apply qdisc backpressure on full ptr_ring to reduce TX drops Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-03-13 9:49 ` Simon Schippers
2026-03-13 10:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-03-23 21:49 ` Simon Schippers
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