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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"skhawaja@google.com" <skhawaja@google.com>,
	"pasha.tatashin@soleen.com" <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 05/10] vfio: Allow null group for noiommu without containers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 14:33:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260416143321.00006ef9@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BL1PR11MB527147EF03B2CD4F76BC40518C232@BL1PR11MB5271.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Kevin,

On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 08:13:22 +0000
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:

> > From: Jacob Pan <jacob.pan@linux.microsoft.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2026 5:14 AM
> > 
> > +/*
> > + * With noiommu enabled and no containers are supported, allow
> > devices that
> > + * don't have a dummy group.
> > + */
> > +static inline bool vfio_null_group_allowed(void)
> > +{
> > +	if (vfio_noiommu && (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_VFIO_CONTAINER)
> > && !IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_IOMMUFD_VFIO_CONTAINER)))
> > +		return true;
> > +
> > +	return false;
> > +}  
> 
> 'allow' kind of implies a policy choice, but throughput this patch
> it's actually a mandatory state when those conditions are true. Can we
> strengthen the words here and other places to not given an impression
> that even when null group is allowed it's still possible to create a
> vfio group for that situation?
> 
> Just like another comment said, iommufd is the only choice in this
> case, then probably could call it vfio_has_iommufd_group()?
Indeed this condition is not an option. I am ok with either
vfio_has_iommufd_group() or directly name what is being checked
vfio_noiommu_no_container()

> > 
> > @@ -392,6 +396,16 @@ void vfio_unregister_group_dev(struct
> > vfio_device *device)
> >  	bool interrupted = false;
> >  	long rc;
> > 
> > +	/*
> > +	 * For noiommu devices without a container, thus no dummy
> > group,
> > +	 * simply delete and unregister to balance refcount.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (!vfio_device_has_group(device)) {
> > +		vfio_device_del(device);
> > +		vfio_device_put_registration(device);
> > +		return;
> > +	}
> > +
> >  	/*  
> 
> can you elaborate why the following wait loop is also skipped? then
> above is removed by patch7 later...
My mistake, will delete this from both patches.

Thanks for catching this.

Jacob

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-16 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-14 21:14 [PATCH V4 00/10] iommufd: Enable noiommu mode for cdev Jacob Pan
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 01/10] iommufd: Support a HWPT without an iommu driver for noiommu Jacob Pan
2026-04-16  7:25   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-04-17 21:59     ` Jacob Pan
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 02/10] iommufd: Move igroup allocation to a function Jacob Pan
2026-04-16  7:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 03/10] iommufd: Allow binding to a noiommu device Jacob Pan
2026-04-16  7:56   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 04/10] iommufd: Add an ioctl IOMMU_IOAS_GET_PA to query PA from IOVA Jacob Pan
2026-04-16  8:02   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-04-16 19:32   ` Alex Williamson
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 05/10] vfio: Allow null group for noiommu without containers Jacob Pan
2026-04-16  8:13   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-04-16 21:33     ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2026-04-16 20:06   ` Alex Williamson
2026-04-17 17:06     ` Jacob Pan
2026-04-17 23:04       ` Alex Williamson
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 06/10] vfio: Introduce and set noiommu flag on vfio_device Jacob Pan
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 07/10] vfio: Enable cdev noiommu mode under iommufd Jacob Pan
2026-04-16 20:49   ` Alex Williamson
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 08/10] vfio:selftest: Handle VFIO noiommu cdev Jacob Pan
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 09/10] selftests/vfio: Add iommufd noiommu mode selftest for cdev Jacob Pan
2026-04-14 21:14 ` [PATCH V4 10/10] Documentation: Update VFIO NOIOMMU mode Jacob Pan

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