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Subject: Re: [PATCH 7.2 v16 04/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 06:55:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260420135554.27067-1-usama.arif@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260419185750.260784-5-npache@redhat.com>

On Sun, 19 Apr 2026 12:57:41 -0600 Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com> wrote:

> generalize the order of the __collapse_huge_page_* and collapse_max_*
> functions to support future mTHP collapse.
> 
> The current mechanism for determining collapse with the
> khugepaged_max_ptes_none value is not designed with mTHP in mind. This
> raises a key design issue: if we support user defined max_pte_none values
> (even those scaled by order), a collapse of a lower order can introduces
> an feedback loop, or "creep", when max_ptes_none is set to a value greater
> than HPAGE_PMD_NR / 2.
> 
> With this configuration, a successful collapse to order N will populate
> enough pages to satisfy the collapse condition on order N+1 on the next
> scan. This leads to unnecessary work and memory churn.
> 
> To fix this issue introduce a helper function that will limit mTHP
> collapse support to two max_ptes_none values, 0 and HPAGE_PMD_NR - 1.
> This effectively supports two modes:
> 
> - max_ptes_none=0: never introduce new none-pages for mTHP collapse.
> - max_ptes_none=511 (on 4k pagesz): Always collapse to the highest
>   available mTHP order.
> 
> This removes the possiblilty of "creep", while not modifying any uAPI
> expectations. A warning will be emitted if any non-supported
> max_ptes_none value is configured with mTHP enabled.
> 
> mTHP collapse will not honor the khugepaged_max_ptes_shared or
> khugepaged_max_ptes_swap parameters, and will fail if it encounters a
> shared or swapped entry.
> 
> No functional changes in this patch; however it defines future behavior
> for mTHP collapse.
> 
> Co-developed-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>
> Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
> ---
>  mm/khugepaged.c | 124 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
>  1 file changed, 88 insertions(+), 36 deletions(-)
> 

Small nits. Most might not need change.

> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> index f42b55421191..283bb63854a5 100644
> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -352,51 +352,86 @@ static bool pte_none_or_zero(pte_t pte)
>   * collapse_max_ptes_none - Calculate maximum allowed empty PTEs for collapse
>   * @cc: The collapse control struct
>   * @vma: The vma to check for userfaultfd
> + * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>   *
>   * If we are not in khugepaged mode use HPAGE_PMD_NR to allow any
> - * empty page.
> + * empty page. For PMD-sized collapses (order == HPAGE_PMD_ORDER), use the
> + * configured khugepaged_max_ptes_none value.
> + *
> + * For mTHP collapses, we currently only support khugepaged_max_pte_none values
> + * of 0 or (KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT). Any other value will emit a warning and
> + * no mTHP collapse will be attempted
>   *
>   * Return: Maximum number of empty PTEs allowed for the collapse operation
>   */
> -static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_none(struct collapse_control *cc,
> -		struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> +static int collapse_max_ptes_none(struct collapse_control *cc,
> +		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned int order)
>  {
>  	if (vma && userfaultfd_armed(vma))
>  		return 0;
>  	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
>  		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> -	return khugepaged_max_ptes_none;
> +	if (is_pmd_order(order))
> +		return khugepaged_max_ptes_none;
> +	/* Zero/non-present collapse disabled. */
> +	if (!khugepaged_max_ptes_none)
> +		return 0;
> +	if (khugepaged_max_ptes_none == KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT)
> +		return (1 << order) - 1;
> +

There are 2 reads of khugepaged_max_ptes_none here.
A concurrent sysctl write between reads can yield "0 then non-zero" or "LIMIT
then mid-value".

Would be good to just snapshot once at the start of the function and use that
value?

> +	pr_warn_once("mTHP collapse only supports max_ptes_none values of 0 or %u\n",
> +		      KHUGEPAGED_MAX_PTES_LIMIT);

IMO, warn_once can get lost quickly in dmesg. Maybe pr_warn_ratelimited?

Not sure what others opinions are..

> +	return -EINVAL;
>  }
>  
>  /**
>   * collapse_max_ptes_shared - Calculate maximum allowed shared PTEs for collapse
>   * @cc: The collapse control struct
> + * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>   *
>   * If we are not in khugepaged mode use HPAGE_PMD_NR to allow any
>   * shared page.
>   *
> + * For mTHP collapses, we currently dont support collapsing memory with
> + * shared memory.
> + *
>   * Return: Maximum number of shared PTEs allowed for the collapse operation
>   */
> -static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_shared(struct collapse_control *cc)
> +static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_shared(struct collapse_control *cc,
> +		unsigned int order)
>  {
>  	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
>  		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> +	if (!is_pmd_order(order))
> +		return 0;
> +
>  	return khugepaged_max_ptes_shared;
>  }
>  
>  /**
>   * collapse_max_ptes_swap - Calculate maximum allowed swap PTEs for collapse
>   * @cc: The collapse control struct
> + * @order: The folio order being collapsed to
>   *
>   * If we are not in khugepaged mode use HPAGE_PMD_NR to allow any
>   * swap page.
>   *
> + * For PMD-sized collapses (order == HPAGE_PMD_ORDER), use the configured
> + * khugepaged_max_ptes_swap value.
> + *
> + * For mTHP collapses, we currently dont support collapsing memory with
> + * swapped out memory.
> + *
>   * Return: Maximum number of swap PTEs allowed for the collapse operation
>   */
> -static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_swap(struct collapse_control *cc)
> +static unsigned int collapse_max_ptes_swap(struct collapse_control *cc,
> +		unsigned int order)
>  {
>  	if (!cc->is_khugepaged)
>  		return HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> +	if (!is_pmd_order(order))
> +		return 0;
> +
>  	return khugepaged_max_ptes_swap;
>  }
>  
> @@ -590,18 +625,22 @@ static void release_pte_pages(pte_t *pte, pte_t *_pte,
>  
>  static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  		unsigned long start_addr, pte_t *pte, struct collapse_control *cc,
> -		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> +		unsigned int order, struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>  {
> +	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
>  	struct page *page = NULL;
>  	struct folio *folio = NULL;
>  	unsigned long addr = start_addr;
>  	pte_t *_pte;
>  	int none_or_zero = 0, shared = 0, referenced = 0;
>  	enum scan_result result = SCAN_FAIL;
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma);
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc);
> +	int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma, order);
> +	unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc, order);
> +
> +	if (max_ptes_none < 0)
> +		return result;

Would a dedicated SCAN_INVALID_PTES_NONE make more sense here instead
of SCAN_FAIL?

>  
> -	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR;
> +	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + nr_pages;
>  	     _pte++, addr += PAGE_SIZE) {
>  		pte_t pteval = ptep_get(_pte);
>  		if (pte_none_or_zero(pteval)) {
> @@ -734,18 +773,18 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>  }
>  
>  static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte_t *pte,
> -						struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> -						unsigned long address,
> -						spinlock_t *ptl,
> -						struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> +		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long address,
> +		spinlock_t *ptl, unsigned int order,
> +		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>  {
> -	unsigned long end = address + HPAGE_PMD_SIZE;
> +	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
> +	unsigned long end = address + (PAGE_SIZE << order);
>  	struct folio *src, *tmp;
>  	pte_t pteval;
>  	pte_t *_pte;
>  	unsigned int nr_ptes;
>  
> -	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR; _pte += nr_ptes,
> +	for (_pte = pte; _pte < pte + nr_pages; _pte += nr_ptes,
>  	     address += nr_ptes * PAGE_SIZE) {
>  		nr_ptes = 1;
>  		pteval = ptep_get(_pte);
> @@ -798,13 +837,11 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte_t *pte,
>  }
>  
>  static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
> -					     pmd_t *pmd,
> -					     pmd_t orig_pmd,
> -					     struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> -					     struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
> +		pmd_t *pmd, pmd_t orig_pmd, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> +		unsigned int order, struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>  {
> +	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
>  	spinlock_t *pmd_ptl;
> -

Shouldn't remove the newline above?

>  	/*
>  	 * Re-establish the PMD to point to the original page table
>  	 * entry. Restoring PMD needs to be done prior to releasing
> @@ -818,7 +855,7 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
>  	 * Release both raw and compound pages isolated
>  	 * in __collapse_huge_page_isolate.
>  	 */
> -	release_pte_pages(pte, pte + HPAGE_PMD_NR, compound_pagelist);
> +	release_pte_pages(pte, pte + nr_pages, compound_pagelist);
>  }
>  
>  /*
> @@ -838,16 +875,16 @@ static void __collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte_t *pte,
>   */
>  static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte_t *pte, struct folio *folio,
>  		pmd_t *pmd, pmd_t orig_pmd, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> -		unsigned long address, spinlock_t *ptl,
> +		unsigned long address, spinlock_t *ptl, unsigned int order,
>  		struct list_head *compound_pagelist)
>  {
> +	const unsigned long nr_pages = 1UL << order;
>  	unsigned int i;
>  	enum scan_result result = SCAN_SUCCEED;
> -

Same here?

>  	/*
>  	 * Copying pages' contents is subject to memory poison at any iteration.
>  	 */
> -	for (i = 0; i < HPAGE_PMD_NR; i++) {
> +	for (i = 0; i < nr_pages; i++) {
>  		pte_t pteval = ptep_get(pte + i);
>  		struct page *page = folio_page(folio, i);
>  		unsigned long src_addr = address + i * PAGE_SIZE;
> @@ -866,10 +903,10 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte_t *pte, struct folio *foli
>  
>  	if (likely(result == SCAN_SUCCEED))
>  		__collapse_huge_page_copy_succeeded(pte, vma, address, ptl,
> -						    compound_pagelist);
> +						    order, compound_pagelist);
>  	else
>  		__collapse_huge_page_copy_failed(pte, pmd, orig_pmd, vma,
> -						 compound_pagelist);
> +						 order, compound_pagelist);
>  
>  	return result;
>  }
> @@ -1040,12 +1077,12 @@ static enum scan_result check_pmd_still_valid(struct mm_struct *mm,
>   * Returns result: if not SCAN_SUCCEED, mmap_lock has been released.
>   */
>  static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct *mm,
> -		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start_addr, pmd_t *pmd,
> -		int referenced)
> +		struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long start_addr,
> +		pmd_t *pmd, int referenced, unsigned int order)

Will probably find out in later reviews, but there is tracepoint in __collapse_huge_page_swapin.
Would be good to add order in that tracepoint if you are adding order here?

>  {
>  	int swapped_in = 0;
>  	vm_fault_t ret = 0;
> -	unsigned long addr, end = start_addr + (HPAGE_PMD_NR * PAGE_SIZE);
> +	unsigned long addr, end = start_addr + (PAGE_SIZE << order);
>  	enum scan_result result;
>  	pte_t *pte = NULL;
>  	spinlock_t *ptl;
> @@ -1077,6 +1114,19 @@ static enum scan_result __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  		    pte_present(vmf.orig_pte))
>  			continue;
>  
> +		/*
> +		 * TODO: Support swapin without leading to further mTHP
> +		 * collapses. Currently bringing in new pages via swapin may
> +		 * cause a future higher order collapse on a rescan of the same
> +		 * range.
> +		 */
> +		if (!is_pmd_order(order)) {

Would it be good to introduce this in the patch that activates it? No strong
preference btw. Just that its dead code in this patch itself.

> +			pte_unmap(pte);
> +			mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> +			result = SCAN_EXCEED_SWAP_PTE;
> +			goto out;
> +		}
> +
>  		vmf.pte = pte;
>  		vmf.ptl = ptl;
>  		ret = do_swap_page(&vmf);
> @@ -1196,7 +1246,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  		 * that case.  Continuing to collapse causes inconsistency.
>  		 */
>  		result = __collapse_huge_page_swapin(mm, vma, address, pmd,
> -						     referenced);
> +						     referenced, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>  		if (result != SCAN_SUCCEED)
>  			goto out_nolock;
>  	}
> @@ -1244,6 +1294,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  	pte = pte_offset_map_lock(mm, &_pmd, address, &pte_ptl);
>  	if (pte) {
>  		result = __collapse_huge_page_isolate(vma, address, pte, cc,
> +						      HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
>  						      &compound_pagelist);
>  		spin_unlock(pte_ptl);
>  	} else {
> @@ -1274,6 +1325,7 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_huge_page(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long a
>  
>  	result = __collapse_huge_page_copy(pte, folio, pmd, _pmd,
>  					   vma, address, pte_ptl,
> +					   HPAGE_PMD_ORDER,
>  					   &compound_pagelist);
>  	pte_unmap(pte);
>  	if (unlikely(result != SCAN_SUCCEED))
> @@ -1318,9 +1370,9 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_scan_pmd(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  	unsigned long addr;
>  	spinlock_t *ptl;
>  	int node = NUMA_NO_NODE, unmapped = 0;
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma);
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc);
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc);
> +	int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, vma, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	unsigned int max_ptes_shared = collapse_max_ptes_shared(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>  
>  	VM_BUG_ON(start_addr & ~HPAGE_PMD_MASK);
>  
> @@ -2371,8 +2423,8 @@ static enum scan_result collapse_scan_file(struct mm_struct *mm,
>  	int present, swap;
>  	int node = NUMA_NO_NODE;
>  	enum scan_result result = SCAN_SUCCEED;
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, NULL);
> -	unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc);
> +	int max_ptes_none = collapse_max_ptes_none(cc, NULL, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
> +	unsigned int max_ptes_swap = collapse_max_ptes_swap(cc, HPAGE_PMD_ORDER);
>  
>  	present = 0;
>  	swap = 0;
> -- 
> 2.53.0
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-20 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-19 18:57 [PATCH 7.2 v16 00/13] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 01/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for " Nico Pache
2026-04-20 12:59   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 02/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-04-20 13:05   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 03/13] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-04-20 13:15   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 04/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-04-20 13:55   ` Usama Arif [this message]
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 05/13] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-04-20 14:20   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 06/13] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-04-20 15:36   ` Usama Arif
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 07/13] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 08/13] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 09/13] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 10/13] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 11/13] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 12/13] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-04-19 18:57 ` [PATCH 7.2 v16 13/13] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache

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